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Citation needed? A quick search turns up study after study from one country after another finding that COVID vaccines both reduce the rate of infection and red

Citation needed? A quick search turns up study after study from one country after another finding that COVID vaccines both reduce the rate of infection and reduce the rate of transmission even with the delta variant. You are right that people are overstating what the vaccine does, and that is where politicians actually have a chance to do something useful. Unfortunately there is a major political party that is doing the opposite, spreading false information, and shouting about "freedom" while working to stop local leaders from taking action...

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Here is an article last updated august 13 2021: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z "But studies on Alpha and other variants cannot be easily generalized to Delta, says Steven Riley, an infectious-diseases researcher at Imperial College London. [...] So far, there are no published data on how vaccines affect infections and infectiousness with Delta, but a UK study5 published on 21 July shows that the Pfizer–BioNTech and Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccines both protect slightly less well against symptomatic disease caused by Delta than against that caused by Alpha. This could also mean a drop in how well they protect against transmission of Delta, but there is still a lot of uncertainty, says Dean. [...] Even if vaccines are just as effective at preventing infections with Delta as with earlier variants, if Delta is more infectious, transmission in households could still increase, says Dean." I think the danger is that often the vaccine is presented as THE solution, i.e. when you get it you don't have to worry about anything. I know far more people who are vaccinated and just stopped being careful (social distancing, masks, ...) than people who haven't vaccinated that aren't careful.

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Here is an article last updated august 13 2021: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z "But studies on Alpha and other variants cannot be easily generalized to Delta, says Steven Riley, an infectious-diseases researcher at Imperial College London. [...] So far, there are no published data on how vaccines affect infections and infectiousness with Delta, but a UK study5 published on 21 July shows that the Pfizer–BioNTech and Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccines both protect slightly less well against symptomatic disease caused by Delta than against that caused by Alpha. This could also mean a drop in how well they protect against transmission of Delta, but there is still a lot of uncertainty, says Dean. [...] Even if vaccines are just as effective at preventing infections with Delta as with earlier variants, if Delta is more infectious, transmission in households could still increase, says Dean." I think the danger is that often the vaccine is presented as THE solution, i.e. when you get it you don't have to worry about anything. I know far more people who are vaccinated and just stopped being careful (social distancing, masks, ...) than people who haven't vaccinated that aren't careful.