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Not only did you come forward with a political position while stating that it isn't, you are also wrong about what the vacines do and do not protect. If vacines

Not only did you come forward with a political position while stating that it isn't, you are also wrong about what the vacines do and do not protect. If vacines didn't protect the person taking them, there wouldn't be any use to them at all.

betterunix2 5y ago
For comparison the flu shot prevents infection in about 60% of people who receive it. The point is not to prevent infection in every single person who receives the shot, it is to prevent infection in or transmission from enough people that the virus will not spread from person to person. Vaccination is not a political position in the US. We require children to receive numerous vaccines from infancy onward and that policy is broadly supported across the political spectrum, and has been for generations now. Where are all those political debates about the polio vaccine, or MMR, or hep B etc.? All I hear are crickets...
- angelzen 5y ago
  The flu shot is not mandatory, nor should it be. Partly becase low effectiveness, partly because it's sensitive to mutations, partly because the risk of complications, while not zero, is relatively low. Polio vaccine is a bit of an outlier. 3 doses give 99% effectiveness. MMR 2 doses is 97% effective against measles and 88% against mumps. The jury is still out on how effective mRNA is against covid delta, studies are all over the place, 42% to 96% for Pfizer. A lot of people are concerned that mutations evading the vaccine are likely to occur, including Pfizer CEO. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur... https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work-against-the-delta-variant https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-...
- tomjen3 5y ago
  >Vaccination is not a political position in the US. Antivaxers aren't new, but it became a serious political question/fight when the covid vacine hit. As for right now there was multiple post about it on /r/politics. Just because you do not think it should be a political issue does not mean it isn't.

betterunix2 5y ago

For comparison the flu shot prevents infection in about 60% of people who receive it. The point is not to prevent infection in every single person who receives the shot, it is to prevent infection in or transmission from enough people that the virus will not spread from person to person. Vaccination is not a political position in the US. We require children to receive numerous vaccines from infancy onward and that policy is broadly supported across the political spectrum, and has been for generations now. Where are all those political debates about the polio vaccine, or MMR, or hep B etc.? All I hear are crickets...

angelzen 5y ago
The flu shot is not mandatory, nor should it be. Partly becase low effectiveness, partly because it's sensitive to mutations, partly because the risk of complications, while not zero, is relatively low. Polio vaccine is a bit of an outlier. 3 doses give 99% effectiveness. MMR 2 doses is 97% effective against measles and 88% against mumps. The jury is still out on how effective mRNA is against covid delta, studies are all over the place, 42% to 96% for Pfizer. A lot of people are concerned that mutations evading the vaccine are likely to occur, including Pfizer CEO. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur... https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work-against-the-delta-variant https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-...
tomjen3 5y ago
>Vaccination is not a political position in the US. Antivaxers aren't new, but it became a serious political question/fight when the covid vacine hit. As for right now there was multiple post about it on /r/politics. Just because you do not think it should be a political issue does not mean it isn't.