3 ms·

The government is the only institution with a monopoly on force. How else can institutional changes be enacted without worrying about defection?

crazy_horse 5y ago
How many people here work in those institutions? Do they not have power to make change or work somewhere else?
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  Not really... If the market saw an opportunity to make money by defecting from a commonly accepted norm that isn't enforced by law there are people who would be willing to implement the defection for the right price.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  There is absolutely zero incentive for any of those people in power to do anything about it. They work in one of the best paying industries on earth, they financially stand to benefit from the very things that ought to be regulated. How do you think anyone reigned in the tobacco industry? Everyone in the industry just went, "well I hate coffers full of money, let's stop working here" ? That's what governmental authority exists for. The idea that the foxes polices themselves while they have all the keys to the henhouse is comical.
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    > The idea that the foxes polices themselves while they have all the keys to the henhouse is comical. Exactly. "The tragedy of the commons" is a well-known terms that means, "given the keys to the henhouse, the foxes are not able to police themselves well enough to keep themselves from starving" - and this doesn't even begin to consider the interests of hens.
OneEyedRobot 5y ago
Judging from the daily riots in Portland without law enforcement involvement I'd say that force has become a more egalitarian hobby.
- void_mint 5y ago
  You can really tell who gets their info on Portland from Fox News and not Portland residents.
  - OneEyedRobot 5y ago
    No need for Fox. There's a jillion hours of raw video out there. My favorites were the people with a half dozen live feeds of the various deviltries and a bit of ongoing patter. A kind of riot sportscaster I guess. Maybe it's the future of TV. In any case, I don't care if they tear up Portland or any other urban area. There's something fascinating about a battle at a distance. Regardless, have an upvote. I love ya man.
    - void_mint 5y ago
      > No need for Fox. There's a jillion hours of raw video out there. Fox news viewers post Fox news quality videos, friend. > In any case, I don't care if they tear up Portland or any other urban area. You clearly care, in that you brought up Fox-news fascist propaganda about Portland.

crazy_horse 5y ago

How many people here work in those institutions? Do they not have power to make change or work somewhere else?

colinmhayes 5y ago
Not really... If the market saw an opportunity to make money by defecting from a commonly accepted norm that isn't enforced by law there are people who would be willing to implement the defection for the right price.
Barrin92 5y ago
There is absolutely zero incentive for any of those people in power to do anything about it. They work in one of the best paying industries on earth, they financially stand to benefit from the very things that ought to be regulated. How do you think anyone reigned in the tobacco industry? Everyone in the industry just went, "well I hate coffers full of money, let's stop working here" ? That's what governmental authority exists for. The idea that the foxes polices themselves while they have all the keys to the henhouse is comical.
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  > The idea that the foxes polices themselves while they have all the keys to the henhouse is comical. Exactly. "The tragedy of the commons" is a well-known terms that means, "given the keys to the henhouse, the foxes are not able to police themselves well enough to keep themselves from starving" - and this doesn't even begin to consider the interests of hens.

OneEyedRobot 5y ago

Judging from the daily riots in Portland without law enforcement involvement I'd say that force has become a more egalitarian hobby.

void_mint 5y ago
You can really tell who gets their info on Portland from Fox News and not Portland residents.
- OneEyedRobot 5y ago
  No need for Fox. There's a jillion hours of raw video out there. My favorites were the people with a half dozen live feeds of the various deviltries and a bit of ongoing patter. A kind of riot sportscaster I guess. Maybe it's the future of TV. In any case, I don't care if they tear up Portland or any other urban area. There's something fascinating about a battle at a distance. Regardless, have an upvote. I love ya man.
  - void_mint 5y ago
    > No need for Fox. There's a jillion hours of raw video out there. Fox news viewers post Fox news quality videos, friend. > In any case, I don't care if they tear up Portland or any other urban area. You clearly care, in that you brought up Fox-news fascist propaganda about Portland.