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I feel awful for the people with religious or medical reasons they can't be vaccinated. I can't imagen having to potentially pick between a truly held religious

I feel awful for the people with religious or medical reasons they can't be vaccinated. I can't imagen having to potentially pick between a truly held religious belief and proving for a family.

ZetaZero 5y ago
From NYT: "Ms. Psaki said that there would be some disability and religious exemptions for some"
- totony 5y ago
  Crazy to me religion and normal beliefs are not put in the same bucket. Why would a religious belief hold more weight than a normal belief?
  - ZetaZero 5y ago
    1st Amendment still has a little power
plandis 5y ago
The article didn’t really mention exemptions, are you assuming no exemptions for medical / religious reasons or are you saying this from a clearer source?
aaroninsf 5y ago
"Truly held" false belief is still false, and no justification for undermining public health, or being a parasite on other's contributions to it. As the MAGA fascist Q-cultists are so fond of chanting, f--k their feelings.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Yeah! After we force inject everyone then we can round up the fat people next and get rid of the number 1 and 2 killers of humans and bring our healthcare costs down. /s Totally not a fascist stance.
  - quotemstr 5y ago
    There are plenty of non-fascist things the state could do that might help address the obesity problem (like stopping massive maize subsidies) but the state won't do any of them. Sad.
- AndrewBissell 5y ago
  How is it "undermining public health" to refuse vaccines which don't work against transmission?
  - 1270018080 5y ago
    "refuse vaccines which don't work against transmission?" Pretty sure that's false. Regardless, if you have antivaxxers taking up a hospital beds and others with legitimate issues missing out on care, I'm sure you can see how this is a public health issue. There's no way you asked that question in good faith. Not a chance.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      While we're at it let's remove the rapists and murderers from hospitals and let them die. Lets also put a weight limit and a smoking limit on things so people don't crowd resources due to their poor decisions. These "anti-vaxxers" that are fully vaccinated other than covid can just go rot in the streets /s
  - geogra4 5y ago
    Reduced transmission because of the vaccine is not a binary
    - TechBro8615 5y ago
      The net change in transmissibility is either negative or positive. So yeah, “reduced transmission” is a binary. It’s just not easy to measure.
  - arsome 5y ago
    Even if they literally had no effect on transmission (which is false), it's still a positive for public health because they have massive effect on hospitalization.
outside1234 5y ago
I can - I'd dump the voodoo. And there are a vanishingly small number of medical reasons to skip it. Most of the people claiming this are making it up.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  There's the wonderful SV attitude we all love...
- winocm 5y ago
  Not me. But then again nobody cares about me anyway. Apparently I learned that I’m allergic to my deodorant yesterday, it burned when I applied it to the skin and after a minute it became intolerable. Guess what it contained? PEG-8.
  - castdeath97 5y ago
    > Not me. But then again nobody cares about me anyway. Nonsense, Your health system in America might be a steaming pile of garbage, but I'm gald I managed to find you here after I got worried once you deactivated one of your accounts.

I feel awful for the people with religious or medical reasons they can't be vaccinated. I can't imagen having to potentially pick between a truly held religious belief and proving for a family.

ZetaZero 5y ago

From NYT: "Ms. Psaki said that there would be some disability and religious exemptions for some"

totony 5y ago
Crazy to me religion and normal beliefs are not put in the same bucket. Why would a religious belief hold more weight than a normal belief?
- ZetaZero 5y ago
  1st Amendment still has a little power

plandis 5y ago

The article didn’t really mention exemptions, are you assuming no exemptions for medical / religious reasons or are you saying this from a clearer source?

aaroninsf 5y ago

"Truly held" false belief is still false, and no justification for undermining public health, or being a parasite on other's contributions to it. As the MAGA fascist Q-cultists are so fond of chanting, f--k their feelings.

hunterb123 5y ago
Yeah! After we force inject everyone then we can round up the fat people next and get rid of the number 1 and 2 killers of humans and bring our healthcare costs down. /s Totally not a fascist stance.
- quotemstr 5y ago
  There are plenty of non-fascist things the state could do that might help address the obesity problem (like stopping massive maize subsidies) but the state won't do any of them. Sad.
AndrewBissell 5y ago
How is it "undermining public health" to refuse vaccines which don't work against transmission?
- 1270018080 5y ago
  "refuse vaccines which don't work against transmission?" Pretty sure that's false. Regardless, if you have antivaxxers taking up a hospital beds and others with legitimate issues missing out on care, I'm sure you can see how this is a public health issue. There's no way you asked that question in good faith. Not a chance.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    While we're at it let's remove the rapists and murderers from hospitals and let them die. Lets also put a weight limit and a smoking limit on things so people don't crowd resources due to their poor decisions. These "anti-vaxxers" that are fully vaccinated other than covid can just go rot in the streets /s
- geogra4 5y ago
  Reduced transmission because of the vaccine is not a binary
  - TechBro8615 5y ago
    The net change in transmissibility is either negative or positive. So yeah, “reduced transmission” is a binary. It’s just not easy to measure.
- arsome 5y ago
  Even if they literally had no effect on transmission (which is false), it's still a positive for public health because they have massive effect on hospitalization.

outside1234 5y ago

I can - I'd dump the voodoo. And there are a vanishingly small number of medical reasons to skip it. Most of the people claiming this are making it up.

hunterb123 5y ago
There's the wonderful SV attitude we all love...
winocm 5y ago
Not me. But then again nobody cares about me anyway. Apparently I learned that I’m allergic to my deodorant yesterday, it burned when I applied it to the skin and after a minute it became intolerable. Guess what it contained? PEG-8.
- castdeath97 5y ago
  > Not me. But then again nobody cares about me anyway. Nonsense, Your health system in America might be a steaming pile of garbage, but I'm gald I managed to find you here after I got worried once you deactivated one of your accounts.