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Why does everything you dislike need to be illegal? No one is forcing you to buy these things.
by avalys 5y ago
Why does everything you dislike need to be illegal? No one is forcing you to buy these things.
- grishka 5y agoNo one is forcing me to buy a phone? Yeah sure. Try to live without one in the modern society.
- arkano 5y agoBut don't lots of people live without one though?
- raimondious 5y agoNo, at least not in the US: https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/ https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/
- squeaky-clean 5y agoAbout 48% of the human population owns a smartphone (that doesn't include "feature phones"). 85% of American adults own a smartphone. 97% of Americans own a cellphone.
- bin_bash 5y agoit's pretty tough now that we do things like pay for parking, provide vaccine status, communicate with daycares all via apps
- HWR_14 5y agoYou can do all those things without apps, if you want.
- Frost1x 5y agoLots of people can live without running water, sewer, power, cars, hygiene products, etc. but that doesn't make any of it practical in modern society in the US. There's of course a limit to this as to where the baseline is, but I'd say having a portable phone of some sort and internet access are pretty high up on that list.
- vitno 5y agoIts not so much that it needs to be made "illegal", The problem is that terms of service itself is a legally enforcable idea. Facebook is the one using legal frameworks to overstep into our life.
- wtetzner 5y agoHow about we just rephrase? We should stop making it illegal for people to do what they want to things they own.
- space_ghost 5y agoIsn't that at the core of the "right to repair" debate?
- sethhochberg 5y agoIts related, but not identical. "Right to repair" in the sense that the FTC is talking about now is largely about manufacturers restricting usage of third-party repair services or parts - so think of it more in terms of Facebook/Ray-Ban allowing independent repair shops to swap your cracked camera lens, or an individual who can source the parts being allowed to perform the work themselves without buying a service contract: things which the manufacturer may currently choose to prevent via terms of use, or which they might have required you to buy a service contract to do. You making a modification to your glasses to hide an LED isn't a repair... at least in the terms the FTC is using at present.
- grishka 5y agoNot even this. The problem is that hardware manufacturers have what amounts to technological supremacy over the rest of the society. If you buy an iPhone, it's not illegal to jailbreak it in most countries. The problem is that you lack the technology to do so reliably (i.e. change the fuses in the SoC to flip it into a less restricted mode of operation) so you have to resort to vulnerabilities to untether it from Apple's servers which you never wanted in the first place. Android is marginally better because of the officially unlockable bootloader, but there still are various encryption keys within your device that you aren't allowed to see and/or overwrite.
- tshaddox 5y agoShould it be legal to use hidden cameras to record images of people without their knowledge? Or should it just be legal to deliberately modify small cameras for the sole purpose of doing so, and illegal for manufacturers of small cameras to implement tamper detection?