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I really appreciate that FB keeps trying to make hardware and products that don't need to be a data collection funnel. It's like they want to free themselves fr

I really appreciate that FB keeps trying to make hardware and products that don't need to be a data collection funnel. It's like they want to free themselves from the cursed golden goose that is data driven ads. I really don't appreciate that every attempt by FB to free themselves of ads they end up with a product perfect for scooping up data so it either flops out of consumer fear and/or turns into a data collection funnel. I want FB to be more than a heinous data trap. I don't think it's going to happen though.

sneak 5y ago
I don't appreciate it, because it means that good product designers are going to work at a terrible data collection funnel advertising company. I would really like our world to be one in which attracting top talent requires more interestingness than simply being an a data vacuuming ad service. If you work at, or would work at Facebook, you should probably follow Bill Hicks' advice.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  I don't know if you should paint the entire company's employees with the same brush. There are probably people at Facebook working on user privacy, trying to fight the good fight. Are they still tainted because they are fighting that fight at a "terrible data collection funnel advertising company"? These companies are huge and have lots of departments within that are not feeding the beast at all. (Disclaimer: Not a Facebook employee :) )
  - bserge 5y ago
    Well, it is rather clear which departments have higher authority.
  - type0 5y ago
    > Are they still tainted because they are fighting that fight at a "terrible data collection funnel advertising company"? They are, how naive could such hypothetical employees be that they wouldn't know FB's stances on privacy?
  - sneak 5y ago
    Yes. Working for Facebook and "fighting the good fight" involves abandoning your Facebook paycheck.
- slut 5y ago
  Insisting that people that work at a company you don't like should kill themselves seems a bit much, no?
  - sneak 5y ago
    It's just a suggestion; I don't insist on much of anything.
    - slut 5y ago
      Yeah I mean because that's rational, reasonable and totally normal behavior. Plainly put: suggesting people kill themselves is a shitty thing to do, in any context. Please don't.
      - sneak 5y ago
        Fortunately for your viewpoint, the person who made this aberrant suggestion is now dead, and you’ve nothing to worry about. (All I did was agree with him.)
    - deleted 5y ago
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bserge 5y ago
> FB keeps trying to make hardware and products that don't need to be a data collection funnel right away. Only 6-12 months later.
commoner 5y ago
You need a Facebook account to use the "View" app that connects to the glasses. Not convinced that Facebook will refrain from data collection, especially after some time passes and the reviews have already been published. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/facebook-is-making-camera-glasses-ha-ha-oh-no https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/faceboo...

sneak 5y ago

I don't appreciate it, because it means that good product designers are going to work at a terrible data collection funnel advertising company. I would really like our world to be one in which attracting top talent requires more interestingness than simply being an a data vacuuming ad service. If you work at, or would work at Facebook, you should probably follow Bill Hicks' advice.

ryandrake 5y ago
I don't know if you should paint the entire company's employees with the same brush. There are probably people at Facebook working on user privacy, trying to fight the good fight. Are they still tainted because they are fighting that fight at a "terrible data collection funnel advertising company"? These companies are huge and have lots of departments within that are not feeding the beast at all. (Disclaimer: Not a Facebook employee :) )
- bserge 5y ago
  Well, it is rather clear which departments have higher authority.
- type0 5y ago
  > Are they still tainted because they are fighting that fight at a "terrible data collection funnel advertising company"? They are, how naive could such hypothetical employees be that they wouldn't know FB's stances on privacy?
- sneak 5y ago
  Yes. Working for Facebook and "fighting the good fight" involves abandoning your Facebook paycheck.
slut 5y ago
Insisting that people that work at a company you don't like should kill themselves seems a bit much, no?
- sneak 5y ago
  It's just a suggestion; I don't insist on much of anything.
  - slut 5y ago
    Yeah I mean because that's rational, reasonable and totally normal behavior. Plainly put: suggesting people kill themselves is a shitty thing to do, in any context. Please don't.
    - sneak 5y ago
      Fortunately for your viewpoint, the person who made this aberrant suggestion is now dead, and you’ve nothing to worry about. (All I did was agree with him.)
  - deleted 5y ago
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bserge 5y ago

> FB keeps trying to make hardware and products that don't need to be a data collection funnel right away. Only 6-12 months later.

commoner 5y ago

You need a Facebook account to use the "View" app that connects to the glasses. Not convinced that Facebook will refrain from data collection, especially after some time passes and the reviews have already been published. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/facebook-is-making-camera-glasses-ha-ha-oh-no https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/faceboo...