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Surveillance cameras are entirely different, in the same way as people don't care about giving their data to a company but do care about giving someone else the

Surveillance cameras are entirely different, in the same way as people don't care about giving their data to a company but do care about giving someone else their phone, a persons camera pointing at them is much different to a surveillance camera.

ryandrake 5y ago
Reminds me of "Surveillance Camera Man" [1] from several years ago. His YouTube channel seems to have been scrubbed of videos, but basically the guy just stood out in public recording people, just like thousands of surveillance cameras currently do, with lots of subjects objecting, berating him, becoming scared, upset, even violent. Point being, it's no different than all the surveillance that is already done, except people freak out when there's an actual human visibly holding the camera. 1: https://blogs.harvard.edu/internetmonitor/2013/07/10/surveillance-camera-man-draws-ire-provokes-questions-about-recording-in-public/ https://blogs.harvard.edu/internetmonitor/2013/07/10/surveil...
- micromacrofoot 5y ago
  No. I see this guy mentioned all the time and he wasn't simply standing there. He was invading people's personal space, responding to them in antisocial ways, lightly following them, and in some cases trespassing. He's a total creep, triggering people's fear response, and people would likely react in a similar way if he didn't have a camera. Much of the time he was absolutely not simply standing in a corner stationary, which is what security cameras do.
- strogonoff 5y ago
  “Surveillance Camera Man” should continue to exist and raise awareness. It’s much, much worse when a camera is not held by a human and is instead fixed in a known location, plugged into mains and is constantly feeding footage into a large network of face/stride recognition software; yet most people are entirely oblivious to the latter happening all around them.

ryandrake 5y ago

Reminds me of "Surveillance Camera Man" [1] from several years ago. His YouTube channel seems to have been scrubbed of videos, but basically the guy just stood out in public recording people, just like thousands of surveillance cameras currently do, with lots of subjects objecting, berating him, becoming scared, upset, even violent. Point being, it's no different than all the surveillance that is already done, except people freak out when there's an actual human visibly holding the camera. 1: https://blogs.harvard.edu/internetmonitor/2013/07/10/surveillance-camera-man-draws-ire-provokes-questions-about-recording-in-public/ https://blogs.harvard.edu/internetmonitor/2013/07/10/surveil...

micromacrofoot 5y ago
No. I see this guy mentioned all the time and he wasn't simply standing there. He was invading people's personal space, responding to them in antisocial ways, lightly following them, and in some cases trespassing. He's a total creep, triggering people's fear response, and people would likely react in a similar way if he didn't have a camera. Much of the time he was absolutely not simply standing in a corner stationary, which is what security cameras do.
strogonoff 5y ago
“Surveillance Camera Man” should continue to exist and raise awareness. It’s much, much worse when a camera is not held by a human and is instead fixed in a known location, plugged into mains and is constantly feeding footage into a large network of face/stride recognition software; yet most people are entirely oblivious to the latter happening all around them.