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This is some FUD that's been posted before (albeit in a comment) where it was addressed at the time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27970298 https://news

This is some FUD that's been posted before (albeit in a comment) where it was addressed at the time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27970298 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27970298 TLDR: A combination of false, exaggerated, and out of context. Some of the arguments don't even make sense, like bridges "centralizing" all your data at... a server of your choice? Namely, my server! One of the multiple desktop clients being Electron based, and thus not FOSS, straight up falsehoods about data being sent back to matrix.org, etc, etc This is a bad and disingenuous article. Edit: Something really cool about Matrix to consider - not only are there a variety of clients, many written by the community, but there are 3 federating server implementations, one of which (conduit) just recently hit beta and was/is written entirely independently from Element/New Vector, AFAIK.

readflaggedcomm 5y ago
The accusation of centralization isn't about the home server you use, but what self-hosted matrix server software sends to third parties. It's what was quoted in the gray box from here https://gist.github.com/maxidorius/5736fd09c9194b7a6dc03b6b8d7220d0 https://gist.github.com/maxidorius/5736fd09c9194b7a6dc03b6b8...
- miloignis 5y ago
  But how is that connected to bridges? Is the accusation that a self-hosted homeserver reports back information about accounts linked through bridges? I don't think that's true at all.
  - readflaggedcomm 5y ago
    It's not quite directly connected: only the user on the Matrix side of the bridge has their Matrix home server reporting on their connection. However, it does see into channels the user joins. When the bridge to Rizon came about, it made people very uneasy that their channels were being broadcast to the Matrix mothership (since Matrix.org runs bridges for everybody to use) just because a user who used the bridge joined. (Ultimately Matrix turned off that bridge, according to Rizon, and I'm not sure if because of complaints. Other networks discourage bridging entirely, like QuakeNet.)

readflaggedcomm 5y ago

The accusation of centralization isn't about the home server you use, but what self-hosted matrix server software sends to third parties. It's what was quoted in the gray box from here https://gist.github.com/maxidorius/5736fd09c9194b7a6dc03b6b8d7220d0 https://gist.github.com/maxidorius/5736fd09c9194b7a6dc03b6b8...

miloignis 5y ago
But how is that connected to bridges? Is the accusation that a self-hosted homeserver reports back information about accounts linked through bridges? I don't think that's true at all.
- readflaggedcomm 5y ago
  It's not quite directly connected: only the user on the Matrix side of the bridge has their Matrix home server reporting on their connection. However, it does see into channels the user joins. When the bridge to Rizon came about, it made people very uneasy that their channels were being broadcast to the Matrix mothership (since Matrix.org runs bridges for everybody to use) just because a user who used the bridge joined. (Ultimately Matrix turned off that bridge, according to Rizon, and I'm not sure if because of complaints. Other networks discourage bridging entirely, like QuakeNet.)