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This has been the case with any counter offer situation I've been in. I didn't realize this wasn't being done everywhere.

commandlinefan 5y ago
I've never even considered a counter-offer - when I put in my notice, I'm already committed to the new role.
- squiggy22 5y ago
  Counter offers just say 'yeah we thought we could get away with paying you that all this time, but here's what we could have been paying you'
  - mywittyname 5y ago
    My last gig gave me a 2% raise then rubbed salt in the wound by saying that I should feel privileged because only a few people got a raise. When I left a few weeks later, they attempted to provide a counter and the promotion to a level that was still below where I probably should have been hired into.
- joshstrange 5y ago
  Exactly, I cannot fathom why someone would accept a counter-offer, it just puts a huge target on your back. You get branded as not loyal or as a "money grubber". Every company I've left, I left for a reason that was always more than just money. Money might have played into it but in those cases it was "I don't want to work for a company that refuses to reward my effort even when pressed". When I choose to leave a job it's often because of cultural or fundamental ways a company operates that doesn't work for me, no counter offer is going to change that.
  - akomtu 5y ago
    So not loyal money grabbers get to label you as a not loyal money grabber. Not a big loss. The higher somebody is in the management chain, the less loyal and the more money grabby they are.
    - joshstrange 5y ago
      I don't disagree with you but doing so can really hurt any chances you might have for advancement at the company. So, in my opinion, you are shooting yourself in the foot to accept the counter offer. Yes, in the short term it might work well but except to have all routes to advancement (or even new/cool/interesting/etc projects) closed to you and eventually you'll have to get a new job to continue to grow/move up. Better to take the new job you have now and roll the dice on how well the new company will reward your hard work. At worst you are in the same situation in a few years but with new experiences.
      - akomtu 5y ago
        Your advancement depends on your personal relationships with the right people. They all are not loyal money grabbers and they are gonna jump the ship one day. Your goal is to find a common ground with them and call them when you also need to jump ship.
  - mc32 5y ago
    As an employer, I think it would also better to let the person go on their merry way. I feel this is like taking back an ex. Once they go, be gone; don't come back. One can't help but have a suspicion they'll be looking again. As an employee I don't think I would agree to a counter offer either. Once you make a deal (agree with the other company's offer) that's what you "shook" on. Obviously people have a diff pov on this and that's okay.
    - joshstrange 5y ago
      I agree with your second paragraph completely but I don't draw any parallels between a relationship and working for a company in the same way "we are a family" is immediately translated to "we expect you to put in more effort than we are paying you for and we will drop you at the first sign of trouble" (a LOT of people learned this the hard way throughout the pandemic). In a relationship I wouldn't be ok if my partner was always "window shopping" for "someone better" or, probably the better analogy, still on Tinder/Bumble/whatever-they-are-using-these-days while we were dating. When it comes to work I try to treat it purely as business. If a company could get the same output from someone else for less money than they pay me they would take that option in a heartbeat, they can't get mad if I do the reverse of that.
- aquir 5y ago
  I agree. If you don’t like something are you currently coming speak to them before even going on interviews. Accepting the counter offer is the worst thing that one can do.

commandlinefan 5y ago

I've never even considered a counter-offer - when I put in my notice, I'm already committed to the new role.

squiggy22 5y ago
Counter offers just say 'yeah we thought we could get away with paying you that all this time, but here's what we could have been paying you'
- mywittyname 5y ago
  My last gig gave me a 2% raise then rubbed salt in the wound by saying that I should feel privileged because only a few people got a raise. When I left a few weeks later, they attempted to provide a counter and the promotion to a level that was still below where I probably should have been hired into.
joshstrange 5y ago
Exactly, I cannot fathom why someone would accept a counter-offer, it just puts a huge target on your back. You get branded as not loyal or as a "money grubber". Every company I've left, I left for a reason that was always more than just money. Money might have played into it but in those cases it was "I don't want to work for a company that refuses to reward my effort even when pressed". When I choose to leave a job it's often because of cultural or fundamental ways a company operates that doesn't work for me, no counter offer is going to change that.
- akomtu 5y ago
  So not loyal money grabbers get to label you as a not loyal money grabber. Not a big loss. The higher somebody is in the management chain, the less loyal and the more money grabby they are.
  - joshstrange 5y ago
    I don't disagree with you but doing so can really hurt any chances you might have for advancement at the company. So, in my opinion, you are shooting yourself in the foot to accept the counter offer. Yes, in the short term it might work well but except to have all routes to advancement (or even new/cool/interesting/etc projects) closed to you and eventually you'll have to get a new job to continue to grow/move up. Better to take the new job you have now and roll the dice on how well the new company will reward your hard work. At worst you are in the same situation in a few years but with new experiences.
    - akomtu 5y ago
      Your advancement depends on your personal relationships with the right people. They all are not loyal money grabbers and they are gonna jump the ship one day. Your goal is to find a common ground with them and call them when you also need to jump ship.
- mc32 5y ago
  As an employer, I think it would also better to let the person go on their merry way. I feel this is like taking back an ex. Once they go, be gone; don't come back. One can't help but have a suspicion they'll be looking again. As an employee I don't think I would agree to a counter offer either. Once you make a deal (agree with the other company's offer) that's what you "shook" on. Obviously people have a diff pov on this and that's okay.
  - joshstrange 5y ago
    I agree with your second paragraph completely but I don't draw any parallels between a relationship and working for a company in the same way "we are a family" is immediately translated to "we expect you to put in more effort than we are paying you for and we will drop you at the first sign of trouble" (a LOT of people learned this the hard way throughout the pandemic). In a relationship I wouldn't be ok if my partner was always "window shopping" for "someone better" or, probably the better analogy, still on Tinder/Bumble/whatever-they-are-using-these-days while we were dating. When it comes to work I try to treat it purely as business. If a company could get the same output from someone else for less money than they pay me they would take that option in a heartbeat, they can't get mad if I do the reverse of that.
aquir 5y ago
I agree. If you don’t like something are you currently coming speak to them before even going on interviews. Accepting the counter offer is the worst thing that one can do.