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> a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which
by platz 5y ago
> a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen
seems like an overstep
- Miraste 5y agoSchopenhauer is one of history's biggest assholes, it's like his whole thing. No one liked him even when he was alive.
- new_guy 5y agoYou'd be an asshole too if no-one liked you.
- YeGoblynQueenne 5y agoAnd if you were an asshole, no-one would like you, too.
- cafard 5y agoWell, Nietzche liked Schopenhauer at least until after Untimely Reflections was published. Schopenhauer certainly could bad-mouth anyone or anything. But remembering him for that is like remembering Dijkstra for the put-downs of Basic or Fortran rather than for his constructive work.
- scns 5y agoHave to concur, sadly. I don't take advice on ethics from a man who kicked the woman, who took care of his house, down the stairs.
- Miraste 5y agoAnd that was ethically consistent for Arthur because he didn't view women as people.
- rootlocus 5y agoCouldn't find a definitive source for this. Wikipedia states it was a neighbour who wouldn't leave his entrance so he pushed her out of the way. She then sued him claming she was violently assauled, had become paralyzed, and was unable to work. He was found guilty and he paid her pension 15 years until she died.
- yesenadam 5y agoNot sure where to start with this ludicrous comment. It seems to break many of the In Comments guidelines, e.g. in every one of their first 6 paragraphs. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Miraste 5y agoI could have written at greater length but I don't believe I'm breaking the other guidelines. Schopenhauer isn't a fellow commenter, he's a historical figure and one of his most notable qualities was being incredibly abrasive, spiteful, and cantankerous, which informed a fair portion of his writing. There are many sources for this but I'll submit his essay "On Noise" as an example [1]. In it, he spends half a dozen paragraphs to reach the same conclusion as The Grinch in his eponymous Christmas special, for the same reasons. You may think the essay is satirical - it's not. It's representative. Discussing Schopenhauer without a clear view of his nature as an asshole is as lacking an analysis as reading Bukowski without the same. [1] https://genius.com/Arthur-schopenhauer-on-noise-annotated https://genius.com/Arthur-schopenhauer-on-noise-annotated
- sto_hristo 5y agoNot quite that much according to my observations. All the nationalists where i'm from are bunch of literal morons that can't do much useful things beyond clenching fists and shouting $country greatest in the world, everyone other country run by little girl.