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> Any insights from the early days of the development of email? Does LibreSignal fork, provide interoperability, and just take over, becoming the "email" of tom
by dngray 5y ago
> Any insights from the early days of the development of email? Does LibreSignal fork, provide interoperability, and just take over, becoming the "email" of tomorrow?
The project was discontinued. You can't develop a "Signal client" without relying on Signal servers. If you do, then you'll need your own server and there is no facility for it to talk to other servers. That pretty much makes it dead in the water.
Something like Matrix which does have federation lends itself to that usecase though.
> Protonmail stated they don't log IP on their homepage. What they meant was "unless the cops ask us".
They don't log IPs if you don't enable advanced logs. They do however and have always said they will comply with legal requests from a Swiss court.
It is in their privacy policy, https://web.archive.org/web/20210627220655/https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy https://web.archive.org/web/20210627220655/https://protonmai.... This snapshot is from earlier this year.
> We will only disclose the limited user data we possess if we are instructed to do so by a fully binding request coming from the competent Swiss authorities (legal obligation). While we may comply with electronically delivered notices (see exceptions below), the disclosed data can only be used in court after we have received an original copy of the court order by registered post or in person, and provide a formal response.
It's also mentioned on the threat model page https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-threat-model/ https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-threat-model/ and
> The Internet is generally not anonymous, and if you are breaking Swiss law, a law-abiding company such as ProtonMail can be legally compelled to log your IP address.
Also mentioned in their transparency reporting https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/.
So that never was if the "if the cops ask". There would be many cases that are denied, and we know this from their transparency reports.
The issue is some very silly people thought this meant a law abiding company would risk prosecution/contempt by not abiding by the law/courts. They failed to read any of the company's policies which have been on the website clear as day and got upset about that.
The reason Protonmail is modifying their marketing is to keep people happy who don't have the attention span to learn about any of the products they use from reading any of the documentation.