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I didn't even know that Manning was released from the federal supermax. When did that happen? Edit: > The decision, made in the last days of Obama's presiden

I didn't even know that Manning was released from the federal supermax. When did that happen? Edit: > The decision, made in the last days of Obama's presidency, means that Manning can be freed May 17 [2017], seven years into a prison term that has been marked by two suicide attempts and a hunger strike aimed at obtaining sex reassignment surgery. Looks like it was 2017. I had no idea. Is Canada going to take her?

mumblemumble 5y ago
Barack Obama commuted her sentence toward the end of his second term.
- AUSNA-ZI 5y ago
  one of the few good things Obama did... you would think that in 8 years, he would have accomplished something as President.
- xvector 5y ago
  A small consolation after everything he did to empower the the surveillance state.
tyingq 5y ago
It wasn't a Supermax prison, fwiw. A couple of different military prisons, but not Supermax. Though it did start with almost a year of solitary confinement.
- kennywinker 5y ago
  Idk how isolated you were march-april-may 2020, but I was seeing a few friends and had ample access to zoom hangs and it still had a pretty big impact on my mental health. A year of solitary? Nobody deserves that. It’s torture.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    I wasn't saying it was fine. Supermax, though, would mean solitary the entire time as well as some other differences.
    - kennywinker 5y ago
      Sorry, I see now that what I intended as a generalized “you” really made that seem like I was attacking you. Apologies! I just wanted to highlight to anyone reading how awful solitary is as a practice by relating it to a recent shared experience.
yellow_lead 5y ago
She can stay here legally. Maybe she wants to move to Canada though. After what she went through here, I wouldn't blame her.
- VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
  I don't think many Americans have much sympathy for Chelsea Manning. Only a very tiny bit of the trove of data that she dumped was really "whistle blower" material. Most of it was actually strategic military data during an on-going conflict. She was not in any way careful about what she was dumping. At least Snowden was careful to only release certain things. And also the part where she tried to starve herself to force USA taxpayers to pay for her gender transfer surgery while she was serving a 35 year prison sentence for betraying them...
  - gnu8 5y ago
    Chelsea Manning never betrayed me. And if we stick somebody in a cage and take away their ability to fend for themselves, we have to take responsibility for their health care.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
      Yep fair enough. But you get why nobody in USA cares about Chelsea Manning or whether or not she's allowed into Canada.
    - q1w2 5y ago
      It has never been demonstrated scientifically that gender modification surgeries are medically necessary, or beneficial in the long term. I wonder if proponents of considering it a medical necessity feel the same way about breast augmentation? They aren't covered by most insurance programs, either in the US nor in most other countries. Denying it is not the same as denying someone antibiotics when they have an infection.

mumblemumble 5y ago

Barack Obama commuted her sentence toward the end of his second term.

AUSNA-ZI 5y ago
one of the few good things Obama did... you would think that in 8 years, he would have accomplished something as President.
xvector 5y ago
A small consolation after everything he did to empower the the surveillance state.

tyingq 5y ago

It wasn't a Supermax prison, fwiw. A couple of different military prisons, but not Supermax. Though it did start with almost a year of solitary confinement.

kennywinker 5y ago
Idk how isolated you were march-april-may 2020, but I was seeing a few friends and had ample access to zoom hangs and it still had a pretty big impact on my mental health. A year of solitary? Nobody deserves that. It’s torture.
- tyingq 5y ago
  I wasn't saying it was fine. Supermax, though, would mean solitary the entire time as well as some other differences.
  - kennywinker 5y ago
    Sorry, I see now that what I intended as a generalized “you” really made that seem like I was attacking you. Apologies! I just wanted to highlight to anyone reading how awful solitary is as a practice by relating it to a recent shared experience.

yellow_lead 5y ago

She can stay here legally. Maybe she wants to move to Canada though. After what she went through here, I wouldn't blame her.

VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
I don't think many Americans have much sympathy for Chelsea Manning. Only a very tiny bit of the trove of data that she dumped was really "whistle blower" material. Most of it was actually strategic military data during an on-going conflict. She was not in any way careful about what she was dumping. At least Snowden was careful to only release certain things. And also the part where she tried to starve herself to force USA taxpayers to pay for her gender transfer surgery while she was serving a 35 year prison sentence for betraying them...
- gnu8 5y ago
  Chelsea Manning never betrayed me. And if we stick somebody in a cage and take away their ability to fend for themselves, we have to take responsibility for their health care.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
    Yep fair enough. But you get why nobody in USA cares about Chelsea Manning or whether or not she's allowed into Canada.
  - q1w2 5y ago
    It has never been demonstrated scientifically that gender modification surgeries are medically necessary, or beneficial in the long term. I wonder if proponents of considering it a medical necessity feel the same way about breast augmentation? They aren't covered by most insurance programs, either in the US nor in most other countries. Denying it is not the same as denying someone antibiotics when they have an infection.