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Well he did qualify the reasons he provided as being only 0.1%. So obviously there are 99.9% more reasons. But then here you come with the ~93% of reasons that

Well he did qualify the reasons he provided as being only 0.1%. So obviously there are 99.9% more reasons. But then here you come with the ~93% of reasons that boil down to convenience. It's more convenient to murder this baby than to not murder it so murder it is. There is a very important and overlooked 7% of abortions that are medically related that save the whole concept of legal abortion for me. Mothers who want babies but, because literally everything in biology can go wrong in ways that make abortion the only humane option, those poor women can't. And they don't need police investigating their terminations in the middle of unimaginable grief.

KittenInABox 5y ago
My understanding is that prior to abortion being legalized, attempted abortion was not an uncommon cause of death. If someone is so willing to avoid pregnancy that they kill themselves, I don't know if it can be reasonably described as convenience anymore.
- arcbyte 5y ago
  Perhaps we should make phone books bulletproof if we're going to idiotproof the world. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/us/youtube-shooting-minnesota-guilty-plea.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/us/youtube-shooting-minne...
  - ehnto 5y ago
    So you don't think we should try and protect the lives of the parents?
- lmm 5y ago
  AIUI those numbers were completely fabricated by pro-abortion campaigners, and are orders of magnitude higher than the real statistics.
ehnto 5y ago
> But then here you come with the ~93% of reasons that boil down to convenience. It is absolutely not convenience. To flip it another way, these are often homes you would never allow to adopt a baby, or homes where the child is inevitably taken by child services due to abuse or incapacity of the parent(s). Then they end up in foster care, far too late to be adopted by the nice well-to-do family with a white picket fence, and they bounce around the foster system. The foster system can't even handle all the kids that aren't adopted, and some kids end up too broken to stay in care. What happens then? At some point they just throw a bunch of broken kids into a shitty house together and have a child services worker come check in on them every day or so.
- arcbyte 5y ago
  You're right. Those homes are too difficult, too far gone. They have no hope anyway. There's no point in giving them an opportunity when killing is easier.

KittenInABox 5y ago

My understanding is that prior to abortion being legalized, attempted abortion was not an uncommon cause of death. If someone is so willing to avoid pregnancy that they kill themselves, I don't know if it can be reasonably described as convenience anymore.

arcbyte 5y ago
Perhaps we should make phone books bulletproof if we're going to idiotproof the world. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/us/youtube-shooting-minnesota-guilty-plea.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/us/youtube-shooting-minne...
- ehnto 5y ago
  So you don't think we should try and protect the lives of the parents?
lmm 5y ago
AIUI those numbers were completely fabricated by pro-abortion campaigners, and are orders of magnitude higher than the real statistics.

ehnto 5y ago

> But then here you come with the ~93% of reasons that boil down to convenience. It is absolutely not convenience. To flip it another way, these are often homes you would never allow to adopt a baby, or homes where the child is inevitably taken by child services due to abuse or incapacity of the parent(s). Then they end up in foster care, far too late to be adopted by the nice well-to-do family with a white picket fence, and they bounce around the foster system. The foster system can't even handle all the kids that aren't adopted, and some kids end up too broken to stay in care. What happens then? At some point they just throw a bunch of broken kids into a shitty house together and have a child services worker come check in on them every day or so.

arcbyte 5y ago
You're right. Those homes are too difficult, too far gone. They have no hope anyway. There's no point in giving them an opportunity when killing is easier.