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Funny enough, 5G (electromagnetic waves) are enough to cause DNA damage in cells, but your skin prevents a lot of them from getting in. Presumably the skin cell

by EGreg 5y ago

Funny enough, 5G (electromagnetic waves) are enough to cause DNA damage in cells, but your skin prevents a lot of them from getting in. Presumably the skin cells themselves are shed before they mutate I guess? Anyway, agencies of the WHO have labeled EMF “potentially carcinogenic”. Here is from 2019: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/we-have-no-reason-to-believe-5g-is-safe/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/we-have-no... (Scientific American) Yet the capitalist industry pushes it into all the cities now, so we’ll be surrounded by It on every city block. The skin is the only reason the cells inside humans and pets are safe from all this EM radiation. Here are a few references: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00297-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00297-6 (Nature Magazine 2020) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6765906/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6765906/ (National Institutes of Health) This is not the case for insects, though, as their epithelial cels do not form such a protective barrier. I would not be surprised if cellphone towers, wifi and other radiomagnetic waves are killing off the insects around cities. Their skin doesn’t actually block all those waves! PS: I am not an expert, but is the 5G for cellphone mini towers the same as the 5G for wifi networks? Because we have been around those for a decade now. EDIT: Why all the downvotes? This is relevant basic information that not everyone here knows, with references to mainstream publications that go more in depth for anyone who is interested.

drdeca 5y ago
The blog post is about magnetic fields, not EM radiation.
- EGreg 5y ago
  Electromagnetic radiation consists of waves of an electromagnetic field. What I wrote is directly relevant to the topic, and is also something that has is currently being put into place around the country so it also connects the topic to what’s actually going on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation As usual - if you don’t like something, simply disagree on the substance. I am happy to be corrected on anything I may have misstated.
  - drdeca 5y ago
    The post is about a constant magnetic field, not a changing one. So, no, stuff about 5G is quite irrelevant.
arpa 5y ago
As to why all the downvotes: the folks here are well aware that you're talking out of your rear-end or are unaware that we are exposed to EM waves orders of magnitude more powerful and of significantly higher frequency. This type of EM radiation is called "visible light", perhaps you have heard of it. Take a physics class before talking about capitalist industry agenda, please. Oh, and as for your references: both non-opinion pieces (Scientific American blog post is an opinion) explicitly state that no adverse effects were noticed. Didn't you read them or did you expect nobody would call out your bullshit?
- EGreg 5y ago
  I think I was clear… the adverse effects are not happening for humans due to the epithelial cells absorbing / blocking the radiation… did you not read what I wrote or did you expect I wouldn’t point out the strawman? I said that these may be harmful to insects, that the same mechanism isn’t present. For example: https://phys.org/news/2020-09-mobile-insects-german.html https://phys.org/news/2020-09-mobile-insects-german.html Here is a direct quote: Of the 83 studies deemed scientifically relevant, 72 showed that radiation had a negative effect on bees, wasps and flies. These effects ranged from a reduced ability to navigate due to the disturbance of magnetic fields to damage to genetic material and larvae. Get it now?
  - ofou 5y ago
    I think people speak this subject too anthropocentric here, the real problem is EM pollution at a massive and unprecedented scale is making the insect population collapse. All of that, without mentioning the lack of methods and funding to study the dangers because the economic incentives are too high. Time will speak by itself.
- Chris2048 5y ago
  > we are exposed to EM waves orders of magnitude more powerful Different materials absorb different wavelengths, light absorbed by the upper layer of skin, or that pass right through us never get a chance to damage anything.
jtvjan 5y ago
> but is the 5G for cellphone mini towers the same as the 5G for wifi networks Nah. "5G" in Wi-Fi refers to transmitting around 5 GHz instead of the usual 2.4 GHz. "5G" in mobile refers to the fifth generation of cellular networks, which can run at a whole range of frequencies.
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by EGreg 5y ago

drdeca 5y ago

The blog post is about magnetic fields, not EM radiation.

EGreg 5y ago
Electromagnetic radiation consists of waves of an electromagnetic field. What I wrote is directly relevant to the topic, and is also something that has is currently being put into place around the country so it also connects the topic to what’s actually going on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation As usual - if you don’t like something, simply disagree on the substance. I am happy to be corrected on anything I may have misstated.
- drdeca 5y ago
  The post is about a constant magnetic field, not a changing one. So, no, stuff about 5G is quite irrelevant.

arpa 5y ago

As to why all the downvotes: the folks here are well aware that you're talking out of your rear-end or are unaware that we are exposed to EM waves orders of magnitude more powerful and of significantly higher frequency. This type of EM radiation is called "visible light", perhaps you have heard of it. Take a physics class before talking about capitalist industry agenda, please. Oh, and as for your references: both non-opinion pieces (Scientific American blog post is an opinion) explicitly state that no adverse effects were noticed. Didn't you read them or did you expect nobody would call out your bullshit?

EGreg 5y ago
I think I was clear… the adverse effects are not happening for humans due to the epithelial cells absorbing / blocking the radiation… did you not read what I wrote or did you expect I wouldn’t point out the strawman? I said that these may be harmful to insects, that the same mechanism isn’t present. For example: https://phys.org/news/2020-09-mobile-insects-german.html https://phys.org/news/2020-09-mobile-insects-german.html Here is a direct quote: Of the 83 studies deemed scientifically relevant, 72 showed that radiation had a negative effect on bees, wasps and flies. These effects ranged from a reduced ability to navigate due to the disturbance of magnetic fields to damage to genetic material and larvae. Get it now?
- ofou 5y ago
  I think people speak this subject too anthropocentric here, the real problem is EM pollution at a massive and unprecedented scale is making the insect population collapse. All of that, without mentioning the lack of methods and funding to study the dangers because the economic incentives are too high. Time will speak by itself.
Chris2048 5y ago
> we are exposed to EM waves orders of magnitude more powerful Different materials absorb different wavelengths, light absorbed by the upper layer of skin, or that pass right through us never get a chance to damage anything.

jtvjan 5y ago

> but is the 5G for cellphone mini towers the same as the 5G for wifi networks Nah. "5G" in Wi-Fi refers to transmitting around 5 GHz instead of the usual 2.4 GHz. "5G" in mobile refers to the fifth generation of cellular networks, which can run at a whole range of frequencies.

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