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I cannot foresee a timeline where it does not explode on the pad.

by nsxwolf 5y ago

mmazing 5y ago
I hope you are incorrect. I will be extremely sad if this mission is not successful.
- chroem- 5y ago
  Although tragic, it would be a fitting end to this boondoggle of a project. JWST was originally marketed as a quick, cheap win for NASA, but it turned into the polar opposite of that.
khuey 5y ago
Most of the time and money was spent on design. If it blows up they should be able to build a second one for a fraction of the time/cost of the first one.
- janmo 5y ago
  In this case, they should have build a half dozen instead of one..
  - oh_sigh 5y ago
    "First rule in government spending: Why build one, when you can build two for twice the price?" -Contact
    - chasd00 5y ago
      I was expecting it to read something like “why build two when you can build one for the price of 5”
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  Wasn't a major part of the problem that the design kept changing based on the pushed timeline? So what we are getting now is completely different from what was planned in 1996 to be launched in 2007? If that's the case, and the JWST fails to deploy, we probably wouldn't just build another copy of it - we would build a completely new/reworked space telescope that would take another 25 years to design/launch.
asmithmd1 5y ago
My thinking is the solar shield gets stuck/torn on deployment. Among the numerous bad decisions, they have no cameras watching the deployment
- krisoft 5y ago
  Why is that a bad decision? Would watching it help in any way?
  - dylan604 5y ago
    I mean, SpaceX would have put 4 cameras on it. Also, pics, or it didn't happen.
    - ufmace 5y ago
      But they all would have broken due to "communication issues"
  - asmithmd1 5y ago
    There are about 50 deployment actions that have to occur. If everything works perfectly, great. But if something hangs up or gets tangled, the people running the mission are blind when trying to debug the problem
  - Mountain_Skies 5y ago
    To learn from what went wrong. Even if it cannot be corrected for the telescope, we can hopefully see enough about what went wrong to be able to prevent the same thing from happening on future complex satellites.
haswell 5y ago
On what do you base this conclusion?
- nsxwolf 5y ago
  A keen sense of irony.
  - dnautics 5y ago
    I see I'm not the only one that believes the universe operates to maximize irony (also, I correctly predicted both Boeing dreamliner snafus)

I cannot foresee a timeline where it does not explode on the pad.

mmazing 5y ago

I hope you are incorrect. I will be extremely sad if this mission is not successful.

chroem- 5y ago
Although tragic, it would be a fitting end to this boondoggle of a project. JWST was originally marketed as a quick, cheap win for NASA, but it turned into the polar opposite of that.

khuey 5y ago

Most of the time and money was spent on design. If it blows up they should be able to build a second one for a fraction of the time/cost of the first one.

janmo 5y ago
In this case, they should have build a half dozen instead of one..
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  "First rule in government spending: Why build one, when you can build two for twice the price?" -Contact
  - chasd00 5y ago
    I was expecting it to read something like “why build two when you can build one for the price of 5”
oh_sigh 5y ago
Wasn't a major part of the problem that the design kept changing based on the pushed timeline? So what we are getting now is completely different from what was planned in 1996 to be launched in 2007? If that's the case, and the JWST fails to deploy, we probably wouldn't just build another copy of it - we would build a completely new/reworked space telescope that would take another 25 years to design/launch.

asmithmd1 5y ago

My thinking is the solar shield gets stuck/torn on deployment. Among the numerous bad decisions, they have no cameras watching the deployment

krisoft 5y ago
Why is that a bad decision? Would watching it help in any way?
- dylan604 5y ago
  I mean, SpaceX would have put 4 cameras on it. Also, pics, or it didn't happen.
  - ufmace 5y ago
    But they all would have broken due to "communication issues"
- asmithmd1 5y ago
  There are about 50 deployment actions that have to occur. If everything works perfectly, great. But if something hangs up or gets tangled, the people running the mission are blind when trying to debug the problem
- Mountain_Skies 5y ago
  To learn from what went wrong. Even if it cannot be corrected for the telescope, we can hopefully see enough about what went wrong to be able to prevent the same thing from happening on future complex satellites.

haswell 5y ago

On what do you base this conclusion?

nsxwolf 5y ago
A keen sense of irony.
- dnautics 5y ago
  I see I'm not the only one that believes the universe operates to maximize irony (also, I correctly predicted both Boeing dreamliner snafus)