it's been my experience that there's no such thing as a job that doesn't suck the fun and joy out of any aligned interest and hobby. the bureaucratic bullshit,

it's been my experience that there's no such thing as a job that doesn't suck the fun and joy out of any aligned interest and hobby. the bureaucratic bullshit, the HR bullshit, the "team building" exercises - i don't care if it's bowling or drinking alcohol, asshole managers, toxic co-workers, at-work politics in all it's wonderful forms. i say this for large companies that pay well but treat you more like a number, for the small places that expect everything from you but treat you like family (at times), the startups, the regional companies, the tech companies, the non-tech companies, the customer facing roles, the backend roles. it's all life sucking and life draining and there's no such thing, on a long enough time line (this is variable to people) that keeps it fulfilling. even changing it up all the time once oyu approach burn out.. .has it's breaking point where even that doesn't do shit for you. work is a thing you do so you can live when you're done. work sucks. best job i ever had was working a kitchen of a BBQ restaurant. 2nd best was building walls and door frames for new houses as a teen. everything else i've ever done, blows and I'm 40.