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It's an incredible litmus test for developer v sysadmin. Developers think the complexity is unnecessary and so don't want to learn k8s. For sysadmins it's mostl

It's an incredible litmus test for developer v sysadmin. Developers think the complexity is unnecessary and so don't want to learn k8s. For sysadmins it's mostly just nice automation around all the chores we used to do with home-brewed bash scripts.

ffdf3r3rf 5y ago
As a developer, I hate k8s, but mostly because my management does not understand difference between developers and devops. They changed our job titles to devops engineers and fired sys admins. I understand k8s is complex for people who specialize in it, try imagining as a developer, you need to setup private vlan ingress. At least, on regular Linux, I know how to setup ip tables or look up 1000s of tutorial. K8s and devops has destroyed us developers' productivity, confidence, and morale.
- sho 5y ago
  Isn't it your management who have destroyed those things?
  - ffdf3r3rf 5y ago
    I don't disagree but I don't know where they are getting their marketing material where they think developers can do devops. I suspect it might some sales tactics from these Cloud/DevOps companies.
goodpoint 5y ago
I've never met a sysadmin that would prefer it over the bash scripts.
- 0des 5y ago
  What's your sample size?
  - goodpoint 5y ago
    Having worked in FAANGs and a number of other large companies, I lost count.
brazzledazzle 5y ago
I wonder if some of the derision is at least due in part to k8s effectively forcing you to think about certain application characteristics upfront instead of addressing them later when you outgrow the single instance performance or suffer an outage.