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Ex Corrola and Celica owner, and ex Toyota fanboy. I was on the market and considering a Supra once the car craze would settle. After seeing all the lobby mon
by boboche 5y ago
Ex Corrola and Celica owner, and ex Toyota fanboy. I was on the market and considering a Supra once the car craze would settle. After seeing all the lobby money against right to repair, trying slowing down Tesla with congress and all, I decided I would not contribute to a brand that used to be a leader in quality and innovation, but now acts as a desperate trainwreck and instead of focussing on improving seriously, they are playing games with numbers (and not being any better than Bezos with SpaceX on the political side) Shame.
Must hurt them bad having sold those TSLA shares when they were worth a fraction of today’s price.
I hope they bounce back, drop the attitude and become competitive again. They made the mistake of being overconfident without acknowledging the competition or (ex) partners, clean competition is always good. Especially in this segment for our planet’s sake.
- ArtemZ 5y agoSorry, but as someone who knows little about U.S politics and lobbying there, I don't understand how you are putting Tesla and "the right to repair" in a single sentence. What will you do if the electronics in Tesla fails? What will you do if the motor fails? Battery? You won't be able to fix that on your own. Teslas can be only repaired in a professional shop, whereas Toyotas can be fixed by a moderately skilled individual in a private garage. You can order all the parts for Toyota online and do everything from engine rebuild to any kind of maintenance.
- boboche 5y agoSimple, 2 separate issues tickling me. Not saying Tesla are not terrible at RTR, they are. But they are also accelerating electrification and catching everybody off guard. Including auto repair shops. Some are actually starting to be the Rossman of teslas and I beleive the momentum RTR is getting will naturally creep in and bite them too soon or later. For now I can just agree and its one of the reasons I won’t buy a Tesla as I like to keep my cars until they completely die (usually rusted beyond repair with 300kkm+) while keeping my repair costs down. Toyota was pointed as a major lobyist against right to repair and financed FUD ads in the US on ballot initiatives btw, Tesla was not in that group.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago> considering a Supra Not a Toyota.
- Forbo 5y agoAm I missing something? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra
- boboche 5y agoJoint venture with BMW, lots of BMW tech, so not a “natural” Supra just like the ft86/fr-s is a joint venture with Subaru, people call ‘em a Toyobaru around here :).
- Forbo 5y agoI'm reminded of the "GNU plus Linux" copypasta.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y agoIt's not just "lots of BMW tech". It's literally a restyled Z4 with the same German engineering quality that will fall apart in five years. Toyota throwing them money doesn't change who really designed it.
- newsclues 5y agoImagine if they rebuild the mark 4 with carbon fibre and an electric drive train.