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Thats looking it through the last generations lens where stability = a geographical location to live with a house on it. Ironically, as climate change effects

Thats looking it through the last generations lens where stability = a geographical location to live with a house on it. Ironically, as climate change effects become more and more prominent, going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes.

iso1210 5y ago
If you have freedom of movement over a large area, if you don't have breakdown of law and order, if people don't start lynching others when they come into their area.
- asdff 5y ago
  RV is the perfect vehicle then for making your way to safety at the nearest operating military base.
  - WJW 5y ago
    Why would the military let some rando in a RV into their base?
    - asdff 5y ago
      Historically the U.S. military provides aid to refugees rather than shoot them at the gate so I'm banking on that when I roll up to camp pendelton in 2050
    - iso1210 5y ago
      Because Will Smith has a dead alien in the back
JTbane 5y ago
>going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes what's the plan when fuel shortages start happening and your RV can't be kept rolling?
- FractalHQ 5y ago
  I wonder what the EV RV industry is looking like..
  - samjett 5y ago
    Near nonexistent. Battery size requirements and battery charging rates make EV RVS either really expensive and really impractical for distance travel. You would need to put a huge battery (say, 300 KwH, which would cost $60,000 just for the battery), to get a reasonable range of 200-300 miles between charges, depending upon the efficiency of your RV. And then, even at a level 3 DCFC Charging station (providing 50 KW) you're looking at 6 hrs of charging to fully charge the battery.
    - eddanger 5y ago
      In this post-apocalyptic scenario I think the range would be secondary to using the battery for day-to-day living. The RV could have solar and keep the battery topped off all the time.
    - Kirby64 5y ago
      You know how much new RVs cost right? 200-400k is not unusual for a 'big' RV. Also, with a bigger battery comes higher limits on how fast you can charge. If you have a 300kWh battery you should be able to charge it at 300kW all day long. That said, it doesn't really exist since there is no market for it at the moment. RV sales aren't exactly high, so the niche for EV RVs is even smaller. Plus there's no real infrastructure out for it now. I suspect once EV Semis become more mainstream we'll see that trickle down to RV users. They can charge at the same place a semi would charge at.
    - ActorNightly 5y ago
      The thing about RVs is that generally, you won't have to drive them often. Average solar panel produces about 15 watts per square foot, so over a course of a month with about 7 hours of sun a day, that is 3 kwh/square foot. So 50 square feet of panels, which is the total area of a large bed, will get you half the range over a month. Also, there will undoubtably be hybrid options where you can have a multi fuel generator charging your batteries.
athenot 5y ago
> going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes. That's fine when young and healthy, but when you're older, have several recurring doctor appointments and some mild impairments, a home is a lot better. Not saying it can't be done, after all there are nomad populations with elderly people who live on the road. But they usually have a support system that travels along, too.
- analog31 5y ago
  Indeed a recent family experience revealed that if you're in a town where you don't have a primary care doctor and you get sick, you're SOL. We ended up having to fly my relative back to his home town so he could be treated.

iso1210 5y ago

If you have freedom of movement over a large area, if you don't have breakdown of law and order, if people don't start lynching others when they come into their area.

asdff 5y ago
RV is the perfect vehicle then for making your way to safety at the nearest operating military base.
- WJW 5y ago
  Why would the military let some rando in a RV into their base?
  - asdff 5y ago
    Historically the U.S. military provides aid to refugees rather than shoot them at the gate so I'm banking on that when I roll up to camp pendelton in 2050
  - iso1210 5y ago
    Because Will Smith has a dead alien in the back

JTbane 5y ago

>going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes what's the plan when fuel shortages start happening and your RV can't be kept rolling?

FractalHQ 5y ago
I wonder what the EV RV industry is looking like..
- samjett 5y ago
  Near nonexistent. Battery size requirements and battery charging rates make EV RVS either really expensive and really impractical for distance travel. You would need to put a huge battery (say, 300 KwH, which would cost $60,000 just for the battery), to get a reasonable range of 200-300 miles between charges, depending upon the efficiency of your RV. And then, even at a level 3 DCFC Charging station (providing 50 KW) you're looking at 6 hrs of charging to fully charge the battery.
  - eddanger 5y ago
    In this post-apocalyptic scenario I think the range would be secondary to using the battery for day-to-day living. The RV could have solar and keep the battery topped off all the time.
  - Kirby64 5y ago
    You know how much new RVs cost right? 200-400k is not unusual for a 'big' RV. Also, with a bigger battery comes higher limits on how fast you can charge. If you have a 300kWh battery you should be able to charge it at 300kW all day long. That said, it doesn't really exist since there is no market for it at the moment. RV sales aren't exactly high, so the niche for EV RVs is even smaller. Plus there's no real infrastructure out for it now. I suspect once EV Semis become more mainstream we'll see that trickle down to RV users. They can charge at the same place a semi would charge at.
  - ActorNightly 5y ago
    The thing about RVs is that generally, you won't have to drive them often. Average solar panel produces about 15 watts per square foot, so over a course of a month with about 7 hours of sun a day, that is 3 kwh/square foot. So 50 square feet of panels, which is the total area of a large bed, will get you half the range over a month. Also, there will undoubtably be hybrid options where you can have a multi fuel generator charging your batteries.

athenot 5y ago

> going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes. That's fine when young and healthy, but when you're older, have several recurring doctor appointments and some mild impairments, a home is a lot better. Not saying it can't be done, after all there are nomad populations with elderly people who live on the road. But they usually have a support system that travels along, too.

analog31 5y ago
Indeed a recent family experience revealed that if you're in a town where you don't have a primary care doctor and you get sick, you're SOL. We ended up having to fly my relative back to his home town so he could be treated.