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Why are you averse to turning off you computer? I understand saving state but I never let my workflow depend on program execution state. Power on, log in, do w

Why are you averse to turning off you computer? I understand saving state but I never let my workflow depend on program execution state. Power on, log in, do work, sip coffee, browse net, finish work, shutdown computer. I like to keep things simple.

codezero 5y ago
Frankly, I've become VERY accustomed to quickly closing my lid and expecting to open it later with about the same battery life and whatever I was working on sitting there waiting. Apple has set a standard that I think in the year 2021 is totally reasonable to expect from a laptop. The concept of power management isn't one, I, as an end user, think I should have to worry about any more.
- birdman3131 5y ago
  With the speed of modern nvme drives I would much rather hibernate than sleep. The ability to know you can come back in a week to the same amount of battery is way better than saving a couple seconds off resuming from sleep.
  - codezero 5y ago
    Coming from the Apple side of things: I don't care what you call it, I just want to close my laptop, then open it and get on with working, and Apple seems to do this really well.
  - djrogers 5y ago
    > The ability to know you can come back in a week to the same amount of battery That's pretty much the modern MacBook experience. And I don't care if it suspends, hibernates or serruptitiously crawls over to a power outlet in the middle of the night to recharge, I as an end user should never need to think about such things. Close lid. Wait hours or days. Open Lid. Work. I like to keep things simple too.
evilduck 5y ago
I'm on a MBP where I pretty much only reboot for system and security updates and my workflow is the same as yours but two steps shorter. I basically never need to power on or power off. From my perspective it seems to me that you're adding steps and complexity. What does power cycling provide that I'm missing?
tomjen3 5y ago
People work in different ways. I, for example, can't fathom why you would not want to have your computer and work quickly accessible. One of my favorite M1 features is that it finally recovers from sleep fast enough that it doesn't interfere with my train of thoughts.

codezero 5y ago

Frankly, I've become VERY accustomed to quickly closing my lid and expecting to open it later with about the same battery life and whatever I was working on sitting there waiting. Apple has set a standard that I think in the year 2021 is totally reasonable to expect from a laptop. The concept of power management isn't one, I, as an end user, think I should have to worry about any more.

birdman3131 5y ago
With the speed of modern nvme drives I would much rather hibernate than sleep. The ability to know you can come back in a week to the same amount of battery is way better than saving a couple seconds off resuming from sleep.
- codezero 5y ago
  Coming from the Apple side of things: I don't care what you call it, I just want to close my laptop, then open it and get on with working, and Apple seems to do this really well.
- djrogers 5y ago
  > The ability to know you can come back in a week to the same amount of battery That's pretty much the modern MacBook experience. And I don't care if it suspends, hibernates or serruptitiously crawls over to a power outlet in the middle of the night to recharge, I as an end user should never need to think about such things. Close lid. Wait hours or days. Open Lid. Work. I like to keep things simple too.

evilduck 5y ago

I'm on a MBP where I pretty much only reboot for system and security updates and my workflow is the same as yours but two steps shorter. I basically never need to power on or power off. From my perspective it seems to me that you're adding steps and complexity. What does power cycling provide that I'm missing?

tomjen3 5y ago

People work in different ways. I, for example, can't fathom why you would not want to have your computer and work quickly accessible. One of my favorite M1 features is that it finally recovers from sleep fast enough that it doesn't interfere with my train of thoughts.