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This is how democracy works too - when you put some additional burden on an activity you should expect the activity to subside. For example, "vice taxes" are sp

This is how democracy works too - when you put some additional burden on an activity you should expect the activity to subside. For example, "vice taxes" are specifically aimed to reduce consumption of undesirable goods. Am I "overruling people of the state" when I quit smoking because the prices are too high? Am I "canceling" the Feds when I don't buy NFA weapons because I think the process is ridiculous?

wolverine876 5y ago
An interesting philosophical question but we know it's not the same thing. Engaging in the philosophical question: You don't have power (unless you do); Amazon does.
- pandaman 5y ago
  Obviously cigarette taxes are not exactly the same thing as employment ad requirements. Putting an additional burden in both cases is the same. And Amazon only has power over you because you don't care about my business and care about Amazon's, if you had been a local vendor and I had been your customer your perception had been different. By law I have more power to refuse business than Amazon.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > Amazon only has power over you because you don't care about my business and care about Amazon's Amazon is large enough to have substantial economic power in my community and country. For example, if Amazon threatens to pull their warehouse from my community, costing 100s (1,000s?) of jobs, that's a material threat. Also, Amazon provides services that are perceived as not easily replaceable. If J's Tobacco & Beer threatens, it will get a laugh at best, but more likely an awkward silence.
    - pandaman 5y ago
      "Economic power" it might have, I thought you had been talking about the "power" as in "legal or official authority, capacity, or right". And sure you should take Amazon's threats more seriously than threats from individuals. If one person does not like your newfangled law, packs his shit and moves to another state then you are fine, if Amazon does the same - perhaps you should think before enacting such a law a bit more? But Amazon is not unique, if you manage to piss off enough citizens with your misguided laws you will see same or worse consequences. E.g. California and New York both just lost a seat in the House each. Think before you make laws, that's the only advice I have.

wolverine876 5y ago

An interesting philosophical question but we know it's not the same thing. Engaging in the philosophical question: You don't have power (unless you do); Amazon does.

pandaman 5y ago
Obviously cigarette taxes are not exactly the same thing as employment ad requirements. Putting an additional burden in both cases is the same. And Amazon only has power over you because you don't care about my business and care about Amazon's, if you had been a local vendor and I had been your customer your perception had been different. By law I have more power to refuse business than Amazon.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > Amazon only has power over you because you don't care about my business and care about Amazon's Amazon is large enough to have substantial economic power in my community and country. For example, if Amazon threatens to pull their warehouse from my community, costing 100s (1,000s?) of jobs, that's a material threat. Also, Amazon provides services that are perceived as not easily replaceable. If J's Tobacco & Beer threatens, it will get a laugh at best, but more likely an awkward silence.
  - pandaman 5y ago
    "Economic power" it might have, I thought you had been talking about the "power" as in "legal or official authority, capacity, or right". And sure you should take Amazon's threats more seriously than threats from individuals. If one person does not like your newfangled law, packs his shit and moves to another state then you are fine, if Amazon does the same - perhaps you should think before enacting such a law a bit more? But Amazon is not unique, if you manage to piss off enough citizens with your misguided laws you will see same or worse consequences. E.g. California and New York both just lost a seat in the House each. Think before you make laws, that's the only advice I have.