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This sounds like an unhealthy dependence on work to me. I enjoy my work but have far more fulfilling and enjoyable activities outside work. But hey, to each th

by Salgat 5y ago

This sounds like an unhealthy dependence on work to me. I enjoy my work but have far more fulfilling and enjoyable activities outside work. But hey, to each their own I suppose.

whytaka 5y ago
Well, aren't you blessed.
- Salgat 5y ago
  Not really. Work is just a way to enrich your employer. I don't really find that all that fulfilling unless I was in an exceptional position, such as upper management in an R&D company developing revolutionary technology. But no, I'm a guy who develops insurance software for a wage. It's not bad, but it's not hard to find far more fulfilling things on my own time.
  - golergka 5y ago
    > Work is just a way to enrich your employer. That's an awful way to look at life. Work already occupies your most productive working hours, why wouldn't you try to make it the most interesting and fulfilling activity in your life?
    - Salgat 5y ago
      I'm not saying what I'm doing is futile or pointless, I'm simply acknowledging the reality of how jobs work. I enrich the employer with the value I add in exchange for a wage. None of this should be romanticized or made into something it's not. It's just a job. What I do outside my job is far more rewarding and fulfilling because it's no longer primarily about making a wage to pay bills.
    - asdff 5y ago
      Not everyone has the privilege to land a job that is interesting or fulfilling. Some people just work until their back gives out.
    - the_only_law 5y ago
      > Work already occupies your most productive working hours Unfortunately > why wouldn't you try to make it the most interesting and fulfilling activity in your life? I can’t. I’d do it if I could, but everything the appears fulfilling seems to end up being a scam or not obtainable or not worth obtaining for the pittance it would pay.
      - saiojd 5y ago
        What kind of work you could consider meaningful, but can't obtain? (honest question)
        the_only_law 5y ago
        Just to be pendantic, I used the word fulfilling as opposed to meaningful as I believe they are different. To the question though, with “can’t” being used loosely: - Anything that I lack the correct aptitude/intelligence to work on. There are a number of options in this category. Things that while I could probably do in theory, I’d be unable to keep up with the competition in a professional market. - Anything with limited options for employment. Sure I’d love to be a ~~Haskell~~ ~~Adga~~ Idris developer or researcher in some crazy field with absolutely zero immediate monetization strategy, but there just aren’t many jobs to apply to. Even if I did anything right I’d still be likely to fail.
    - saiojd 5y ago
      I can't believe you are being downvoted on this website of all places. Meaningless jobs are crap, and shouldn't be celebrated at all. I'm sorry but deciding that all work is pointless, just because that's what your work is like, is plain and simple coping.
    - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
      work is the thing i have the least control over. the most interesting job gets grinded down by process, by toxic co-workers, bully bosses, unrealistic expecatations and pressures, dealing with shitty "customers" (be them internal employees or external to the company). my wife, my kid, hiking, camping, hitting the beach, listening to music, going to a concert, watching a movie, reading a book, gardening, yard/house projects, having my cat sit on my lap ..are all infinitely more rewarding than any piece of shit job could ever be.
  - fuzzfactor 5y ago
    >Work is just a way to enrich your employer. I wish my work could enrich my employer more. They can only deploy the smallest fraction. I'm getting better at a faster rate than they are.
loudtieblahblah 5y ago
it's been my experience that there's no such thing as a job that doesn't suck the fun and joy out of any aligned interest and hobby. the bureaucratic bullshit, the HR bullshit, the "team building" exercises - i don't care if it's bowling or drinking alcohol, asshole managers, toxic co-workers, at-work politics in all it's wonderful forms. i say this for large companies that pay well but treat you more like a number, for the small places that expect everything from you but treat you like family (at times), the startups, the regional companies, the tech companies, the non-tech companies, the customer facing roles, the backend roles. it's all life sucking and life draining and there's no such thing, on a long enough time line (this is variable to people) that keeps it fulfilling. even changing it up all the time once oyu approach burn out.. .has it's breaking point where even that doesn't do shit for you. work is a thing you do so you can live when you're done. work sucks. best job i ever had was working a kitchen of a BBQ restaurant. 2nd best was building walls and door frames for new houses as a teen. everything else i've ever done, blows and I'm 40.

by Salgat 5y ago

This sounds like an unhealthy dependence on work to me. I enjoy my work but have far more fulfilling and enjoyable activities outside work. But hey, to each their own I suppose.

whytaka 5y ago

Well, aren't you blessed.

Salgat 5y ago
Not really. Work is just a way to enrich your employer. I don't really find that all that fulfilling unless I was in an exceptional position, such as upper management in an R&D company developing revolutionary technology. But no, I'm a guy who develops insurance software for a wage. It's not bad, but it's not hard to find far more fulfilling things on my own time.
- golergka 5y ago
  > Work is just a way to enrich your employer. That's an awful way to look at life. Work already occupies your most productive working hours, why wouldn't you try to make it the most interesting and fulfilling activity in your life?
  - Salgat 5y ago
    I'm not saying what I'm doing is futile or pointless, I'm simply acknowledging the reality of how jobs work. I enrich the employer with the value I add in exchange for a wage. None of this should be romanticized or made into something it's not. It's just a job. What I do outside my job is far more rewarding and fulfilling because it's no longer primarily about making a wage to pay bills.
  - asdff 5y ago
    Not everyone has the privilege to land a job that is interesting or fulfilling. Some people just work until their back gives out.
  - the_only_law 5y ago
    > Work already occupies your most productive working hours Unfortunately > why wouldn't you try to make it the most interesting and fulfilling activity in your life? I can’t. I’d do it if I could, but everything the appears fulfilling seems to end up being a scam or not obtainable or not worth obtaining for the pittance it would pay.
    - saiojd 5y ago
      What kind of work you could consider meaningful, but can't obtain? (honest question)
      - the_only_law 5y ago
        Just to be pendantic, I used the word fulfilling as opposed to meaningful as I believe they are different. To the question though, with “can’t” being used loosely: - Anything that I lack the correct aptitude/intelligence to work on. There are a number of options in this category. Things that while I could probably do in theory, I’d be unable to keep up with the competition in a professional market. - Anything with limited options for employment. Sure I’d love to be a ~~Haskell~~ ~~Adga~~ Idris developer or researcher in some crazy field with absolutely zero immediate monetization strategy, but there just aren’t many jobs to apply to. Even if I did anything right I’d still be likely to fail.
  - saiojd 5y ago
    I can't believe you are being downvoted on this website of all places. Meaningless jobs are crap, and shouldn't be celebrated at all. I'm sorry but deciding that all work is pointless, just because that's what your work is like, is plain and simple coping.
  - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
    work is the thing i have the least control over. the most interesting job gets grinded down by process, by toxic co-workers, bully bosses, unrealistic expecatations and pressures, dealing with shitty "customers" (be them internal employees or external to the company). my wife, my kid, hiking, camping, hitting the beach, listening to music, going to a concert, watching a movie, reading a book, gardening, yard/house projects, having my cat sit on my lap ..are all infinitely more rewarding than any piece of shit job could ever be.
- fuzzfactor 5y ago
  >Work is just a way to enrich your employer. I wish my work could enrich my employer more. They can only deploy the smallest fraction. I'm getting better at a faster rate than they are.

loudtieblahblah 5y ago

it's been my experience that there's no such thing as a job that doesn't suck the fun and joy out of any aligned interest and hobby. the bureaucratic bullshit, the HR bullshit, the "team building" exercises - i don't care if it's bowling or drinking alcohol, asshole managers, toxic co-workers, at-work politics in all it's wonderful forms. i say this for large companies that pay well but treat you more like a number, for the small places that expect everything from you but treat you like family (at times), the startups, the regional companies, the tech companies, the non-tech companies, the customer facing roles, the backend roles. it's all life sucking and life draining and there's no such thing, on a long enough time line (this is variable to people) that keeps it fulfilling. even changing it up all the time once oyu approach burn out.. .has it's breaking point where even that doesn't do shit for you. work is a thing you do so you can live when you're done. work sucks. best job i ever had was working a kitchen of a BBQ restaurant. 2nd best was building walls and door frames for new houses as a teen. everything else i've ever done, blows and I'm 40.