> I guess the problem was they didn't realize why Kubernetes needs to be that complicated. I guess this strongly depends on one's needs. I mean, if all you wan

> I guess the problem was they didn't realize why Kubernetes needs to be that complicated. I guess this strongly depends on one's needs. I mean, if all you want to do is glue together a couple of nodes and have a few stacks running on them, do we really need all the bells and whistles? I mean, with Docker Swarm anyone can get ingress right from the start on any bare ones cloud provider. Deploy your Docker Swarm cluster, slap a service like Traefik, and you're done. It's a 10min job. What else does Kubernetes brings to the table?