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> Pretty much if you're a US citizen they already have your fingerprints. False. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply.html https://tr
by js2 5y ago
> Pretty much if you're a US citizen they already have your fingerprints.
False. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-app...
My spouse and I renewed our passports in the last 10 years, and got our kids passports for the first time. We did not provide fingerprints.
I am a U.S. citizen. I went through an SF86 clearance in the early 2000s and don't recall even that requiring my fingerprints (but I could be wrong about that). I only recall giving up my fingerprints twice:
1. To unlock my Apple devices, safely locked in a secure enclave.
2. For TSA Pre.
- jmisavage 5y agoI distinctly remember getting fingerprinted for my clearance paperwork. And those that get TS/SCI have to get polygraph test every couple years.
- tcoff91 5y agoYou didn't have to give your fingerprints when you got a driver's license?
- bregma 5y agoWhere on earth would people accept such an encroachment on their privacy and right to unreasonable search and seizure just to obtain proof they have passed an examination? Soviet Russia? The DDR? Orwell's Oceania?
- jedberg 5y agoIt isn't just proof you passed an exam -- it's also your ID card. The fingerprints are part of your government ID. Here in California you have to give a thumbprint or fingerprint to get both a license and a state issued ID card. The license serves as both proof of passing and as an ID so you don't need two cards.
- tcoff91 5y agoHere in California everyone who has a driver's license had to have a fingerprint/thumbprint taken.
- js2 5y agoNo, never. I’ve had licenses in FL, GA, NC and CA.
- jedberg 5y agoThey for sure took your fingerprints in California. It's required to get a license. Search this for fingerprint: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/file/california-driver-handbook-pdf/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/file/california-driver-handboo... You may just not remember because it's electronic.
- jandrese 5y agoThere are multiple clearances with different requirements, so it is possible that certain types require finger prints while others do not. However, AFAIK everybody who gets a clearance also has their fingerprints taken. The finger prints may not be available to regular LEO for dragnets to reduce the chance of leaking out the personal information of every cleared individual to foreign agents that have infiltrated law enforcement.
- js2 5y ago> However, AFAIK everybody who gets a clearance also has their fingerprints taken. Ah, you’re right. I just found some correspondence related to the clearance and I did indeed provide fingerprints. The company I was working for at the time apparently was working with the NSA. I have almost no recollection of this. Maybe the MIB wiped my mind. > finger prints may not be available to regular LEO for dragnets to reduce the chance of leaking out the personal information of every cleared individual to foreign agents that have infiltrated law enforcement. I don’t know how far back this leak went, but I wouldn’t be surprised if my info was part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management...