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Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to t

Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to trust that the data (name, birth date, maybe location) isn’t being sent to some marketing analytics company somewhere. Edit: Since some HN commenters want to play disingenuous games and insert words into my mouth, I’ll clarify my specific problem is with these apps having zero standards. If my state makes its own app or devises a law to prosecute this kind of use of private data, I would have less of a problem with it as a temporary measure.

Jasper_ 5y ago
when I got my first vaccine, they gave me a paper card, and they put stickers on it to record which vaccines I got, and I put it in my wallet where it's been ever since. I haven't (yet, I guess) had to show a "digital vaccine record", I just show my paper card and they stare at it for a bit and then wave me through. if you did not get that option, that sucks, and it sounds a bit inconvenient, but, uh, yeah, over 600,000 people in the US have died so far, i don't think that's a "scare", that sounds like a valid concern to me. also your data is almost assuredly at 20 different marketing analytics firms already, regardless of how secure or open-source the digital vaccine record is.
- isoskeles 5y ago
  You don’t know where my data is. And regardless, that doesn’t mean I’m supposed to be okay with another vector that I cannot opt out of for potentially selling my data.
void_mint 5y ago
> Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to trust that the data (name, birth date, maybe location) isn’t being sent to some marketing analytics company somewhere. If you think vaccine passports are bad just wait until you hear about all phones...
- isoskeles 5y ago
  Sorry bud, I can turn off my phone. I can leave my phone at home. My phone carrier doesn’t sell my location, they just give it to the police if I commit a murder.
  - void_mint 5y ago
    Sorry bud, you can avoid events that require vaccine passports. You can move to deeply conservative states that share your views. Tell me again how it's different.
    - isoskeles 5y ago
      Oh I bet you use that same dipshit logic when discussing homeless people being told to move somewhere cheaper.
      - void_mint 5y ago
        > Oh I bet you use that same dipshit logic This amount of disrespect is unwarranted. > when discussing homeless people being told to move somewhere cheaper. What an absolutely insane whataboutism. This has nothing to do with what we're discussing and you look like a joke. You're asserting that vaccine passports infringe upon your freedoms. Just don't go to those bars. Jesus.
        isoskeles 5y ago
        Play the victim after telling me to pack up my life and move states. Fuck off.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        What if the city like NY ordered ALL bars to stop you for your papers. Now you can't go to any bars. That hurts minorities the most as they are the most unvaccinated. Its new world segregation essentially. But yes those people could just pick up and move, and many are. Look at the numbers. Unfortunately many cannot because they aren't on a SWE salary.

Jasper_ 5y ago

when I got my first vaccine, they gave me a paper card, and they put stickers on it to record which vaccines I got, and I put it in my wallet where it's been ever since. I haven't (yet, I guess) had to show a "digital vaccine record", I just show my paper card and they stare at it for a bit and then wave me through. if you did not get that option, that sucks, and it sounds a bit inconvenient, but, uh, yeah, over 600,000 people in the US have died so far, i don't think that's a "scare", that sounds like a valid concern to me. also your data is almost assuredly at 20 different marketing analytics firms already, regardless of how secure or open-source the digital vaccine record is.

isoskeles 5y ago
You don’t know where my data is. And regardless, that doesn’t mean I’m supposed to be okay with another vector that I cannot opt out of for potentially selling my data.

void_mint 5y ago

> Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to trust that the data (name, birth date, maybe location) isn’t being sent to some marketing analytics company somewhere. If you think vaccine passports are bad just wait until you hear about all phones...

isoskeles 5y ago
Sorry bud, I can turn off my phone. I can leave my phone at home. My phone carrier doesn’t sell my location, they just give it to the police if I commit a murder.
- void_mint 5y ago
  Sorry bud, you can avoid events that require vaccine passports. You can move to deeply conservative states that share your views. Tell me again how it's different.
  - isoskeles 5y ago
    Oh I bet you use that same dipshit logic when discussing homeless people being told to move somewhere cheaper.
    - void_mint 5y ago
      > Oh I bet you use that same dipshit logic This amount of disrespect is unwarranted. > when discussing homeless people being told to move somewhere cheaper. What an absolutely insane whataboutism. This has nothing to do with what we're discussing and you look like a joke. You're asserting that vaccine passports infringe upon your freedoms. Just don't go to those bars. Jesus.
      - isoskeles 5y ago
        Play the victim after telling me to pack up my life and move states. Fuck off.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        What if the city like NY ordered ALL bars to stop you for your papers. Now you can't go to any bars. That hurts minorities the most as they are the most unvaccinated. Its new world segregation essentially. But yes those people could just pick up and move, and many are. Look at the numbers. Unfortunately many cannot because they aren't on a SWE salary.