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How should I interpret for example the data from Israel? Highly vaccinated country with both cases and deaths peaking: https://www.worldometers.info/coronaviru

How should I interpret for example the data from Israel? Highly vaccinated country with both cases and deaths peaking: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

anoonmoose 5y ago
Cases are mostly irrelevant, death peak is lower than previous deak peaks
- hammock 5y ago
  >Cases are mostly irrelevant Tell that to Australia?
  - anoonmoose 5y ago
    Sure: Australia, stop focusing on cases and pay attention to hospitalization and death rates. Idk what your comment was meant to convey.
spywaregorilla 5y ago
You should interpret it in the context of other countries.
mthoms 5y ago
The data out of Israel plainly shows that vaccinated people have significantly better outcomes: They are much less likely to get seriously ill and die. Stop it.
CarelessExpert 5y ago
> How should I interpret for example the data from Israel? By reading the following analysis and familiarizing yourself with Simpson's paradox: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-... You're spreading misinformation. Stop it.
- nonomaybeyes 5y ago
  That link does not explain why the number of infections and deaths is peaking right now.
  - CarelessExpert 5y ago
    The short answer is Delta. The longer answer is: 1) Delta is enormously more contagious and so will tear through the unvaccinated faster and will create more breakthrough infections simply due to greater chances of exposure, 2) Delta is also more virulent and is more likely to put young people (who are less likely to be vaccined) in the hospital, 3) Breakthrough infections are more likely with the elderly or at-risk populations due to poorer immune response, and Delta being more virulent means they're more likely to land in the hospital, and 4) Assuming some reduction in vaccine effectiveness over time, that'll impact high-risk populations first since they've been vaccinated the longest. And those folks have a much higher likelihood of ending up in the hospital because of their high risk status.

anoonmoose 5y ago

Cases are mostly irrelevant, death peak is lower than previous deak peaks

hammock 5y ago
>Cases are mostly irrelevant Tell that to Australia?
- anoonmoose 5y ago
  Sure: Australia, stop focusing on cases and pay attention to hospitalization and death rates. Idk what your comment was meant to convey.

spywaregorilla 5y ago

You should interpret it in the context of other countries.

mthoms 5y ago

The data out of Israel plainly shows that vaccinated people have significantly better outcomes: They are much less likely to get seriously ill and die. Stop it.

CarelessExpert 5y ago

> How should I interpret for example the data from Israel? By reading the following analysis and familiarizing yourself with Simpson's paradox: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-... You're spreading misinformation. Stop it.

nonomaybeyes 5y ago
That link does not explain why the number of infections and deaths is peaking right now.
- CarelessExpert 5y ago
  The short answer is Delta. The longer answer is: 1) Delta is enormously more contagious and so will tear through the unvaccinated faster and will create more breakthrough infections simply due to greater chances of exposure, 2) Delta is also more virulent and is more likely to put young people (who are less likely to be vaccined) in the hospital, 3) Breakthrough infections are more likely with the elderly or at-risk populations due to poorer immune response, and Delta being more virulent means they're more likely to land in the hospital, and 4) Assuming some reduction in vaccine effectiveness over time, that'll impact high-risk populations first since they've been vaccinated the longest. And those folks have a much higher likelihood of ending up in the hospital because of their high risk status.