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Do these people have criteria for what evidence it would take for them to consider mRNA vaccines to be safe? I see a lot of FUD but nothing that seems to define

Do these people have criteria for what evidence it would take for them to consider mRNA vaccines to be safe? I see a lot of FUD but nothing that seems to define what would invalidate or confirm these concerns.

pkphilip 5y ago
The mRNA vaccines have been out for about a year or so. What evidence is there to indicate that it is safe even in the medium term (>2yrs) let alone long term?
- frumper 5y ago
  In 2009, researchers conducted the first-ever trial on cancer immunotherapy using mRNA-based vaccines in human subjects with metastatic melanoma. The results of the trial showed an increase in the number of vaccine-directed T cells against melanoma (Weide et al., 2009). https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-applications/ https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-...
- lamontcg 5y ago
  Because autoimmune reactions to antigens either show up in 3 months or they don't. Vaccines are tiny and you don't take them chronicially. They aren't like medicine. The bad side effects are entirely your body attacking itself. And there's a well-studied branch of medicine dealing with that. There's no autoimmune disease which emerges only >2 years after exposure to an antigen. In all of medicine that phenominon doesn't exist in order for to happen after an mRNA vaccine.
seattle_spring 5y ago
No. The previous criteria was FDA approval, but the goalposts predictably moved once that happened.
angelzen 5y ago
A 20 year track record that the virus doesn't eventually mutate to bypass the narrow protection offered by mRNA vaccines, and subsequent infections aren't worse compared with natural immunity gained after an initial infection. In particular when first infection occurs early in life, like is the case for other human coronaviruses that subsequently become an afterthought.

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Do these people have criteria for what evidence it would take for them to consider mRNA vaccines to be safe? I see a lot of FUD but nothing that seems to define

by babyshake 5y ago

pkphilip 5y ago
The mRNA vaccines have been out for about a year or so. What evidence is there to indicate that it is safe even in the medium term (>2yrs) let alone long term?
- frumper 5y ago
  In 2009, researchers conducted the first-ever trial on cancer immunotherapy using mRNA-based vaccines in human subjects with metastatic melanoma. The results of the trial showed an increase in the number of vaccine-directed T cells against melanoma (Weide et al., 2009). https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-applications/ https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-...
- lamontcg 5y ago
  Because autoimmune reactions to antigens either show up in 3 months or they don't. Vaccines are tiny and you don't take them chronicially. They aren't like medicine. The bad side effects are entirely your body attacking itself. And there's a well-studied branch of medicine dealing with that. There's no autoimmune disease which emerges only >2 years after exposure to an antigen. In all of medicine that phenominon doesn't exist in order for to happen after an mRNA vaccine.
seattle_spring 5y ago
No. The previous criteria was FDA approval, but the goalposts predictably moved once that happened.
angelzen 5y ago
A 20 year track record that the virus doesn't eventually mutate to bypass the narrow protection offered by mRNA vaccines, and subsequent infections aren't worse compared with natural immunity gained after an initial infection. In particular when first infection occurs early in life, like is the case for other human coronaviruses that subsequently become an afterthought.