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This is an old study, and a biased poorly written review. Which is a shame. It also should not focus on HUGE cloud providers like Amazon, Google, Microsoft.
by ThinkBeat 5y ago
This is an old study, and a biased poorly written review.
Which is a shame.
It also should not focus on HUGE cloud providers like
Amazon, Google, Microsoft.
Estimating licensing, maintenance costs for running at that scale would need access to their internal documents (as far as I know, none of them have published all the numbers).
Hardware costs are hard to pin down.
These companies have special specs for what they want.
Having custom computers produced should put the price
higher than off the rack, but given how mnany servers
they buy that probably changess.
In today's world, cloud can run high volume transaction loads and most recent IBM z15 and IBM LinuxOne can run
normal cloud tasks.
I believe that a proper comparison in 2021 would be a lot closer than what most x64 people would expect.
As long as we ignore AWS,Azure,Googe scale and think of smaller "in house" cloud like datacenters it should be part
of the estimation.
In my opinion DB2 running on a z15/zOS is hard to beat on uptime, reliability, and throughput. There would also be less need for sharding and clustering headaches.
A z15 can also be loaded up with Specialty Engine Support
like IBM Integrated Facility for Linux (IFL), or IBM zEnterprise® Application Assist Processor (zAAP)
Which means added a bunch of cpus that are dedicated to oen thing, in those mentioned above one is for running Linux and the second for running Java. All offloading the main system
One big problem in comparing is that the terminology and smenatics are quite different. Reading specs does not
make it easy to compare 1 - 1.
I have hoped i would end up at a place that did use modern mainframes for "modern conventional" workloads.
I havent had that chance yet.
- theamk 5y ago> Estimating licensing, maintenance costs for running at that scale ... I am pretty sure AWS for example doed not have major licensing payments for software. Their stack is mix of open source and self-written software and none of them require regular license payments. So all the software costs that the study talks about would be reversed -- it is hard to compete with $0. And any extra work in system administration will be split over hundreds of thousands of servers.
- ThinkBeat 5y agoI would think AWS pays a lot in licensing. Oracle database, Oracle MySql, Microsoft Sql Server Microsoft Windows. But microscopic compared to having to run proprietary software on all servers. System administration over hundreds of thousands of servers is a lot more complicated than one or a few z15 or Linux One machines. In addition, z15 has battle-hardened reliability (far above AWS servers). All the infrastructure to feed and care for over hundreds of thousands of servers is a lot more complicated. Even if what you have to do is just shutdown servers that are not working and never turn them on again. It is one of the biggest advantages of the z15 platform.