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Contrary to popular belief, XMPP continues to innovate. This is an advantage of the modular protocol design which allows evolution of the protocol by adding new
by MattJ100 5y ago
Contrary to popular belief, XMPP continues to innovate. This is an advantage of the modular protocol design which allows evolution of the protocol by adding new extensions and phasing out old ones. Every year the XMPP Standards Foundation publishes a short list of what is expected of basic/advanced XMPP clients: https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites.html https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites.html
I gave a talk and wrote a blog post about my perspective on "the ecosystem is moving": https://snikket.org/blog/products-vs-protocols/ https://snikket.org/blog/products-vs-protocols/
As have others:
- An Objection to "The Ecosystem is Moving": https://gultsch.de/objection.html https://gultsch.de/objection.html
- "Have you considered the alternative?" https://homebrewserver.club/have-you-considered-the-alternative.html https://homebrewserver.club/have-you-considered-the-alternat...
- "Re: The Ecosystem is Moving" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2019/12/29/re-the-ecosystem-is-moving/ https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2019/12/29/re-the-ecosystem-is-mo...
There are many technologists who believe that Moxie's stance towards decentralization is wrong, or at least - not entirely right.
- cpach 5y agoInteresting! Then there’s the network effect though. I personally know only 1 person who still uses XMPP. I have lots of acquaintances on WhatsApp and Slack though. And a few on Signal. I used XMPP a lot back in the 00s, but these days I honestly feel no need for it. YMMV though!
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- MattJ100 5y agoMy family use XMPP daily for messaging and calling each other, and I know many others who do the same. That's not to say my perspective is average, or that the federated XMPP network is anywhere near as popular as WhatsApp, Slack or Signal. Network effects and money are powerful forces, significantly more so when combined. Luckily for specific groups (families, organizations, etc.) who just want more control over their intra-group communications, it's typically far easier to overcome the network effect issue than solve it for the general case.