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people are downvoting you but you are dead on. they're far more interested in tearing down existing systems, without any real plan that has any chance of being
by loudtieblahblah 5y ago
people are downvoting you but you are dead on.
they're far more interested in tearing down existing systems, without any real plan that has any chance of being laid out and accomplished.
What you have is a scattering of anarchist, socialist, and communist groups - all small in their own right, all with their own little ideas, and even vast deviations of those ideas within their little groups.
Everyone has some alternate way to organize hierarchies, wealth/resource distribution... and they really don't get too hung up on the details of all those differences and hte problems each of those plans have.
What they do have is a consensus that the "system" is so rotten to the core, so irredeemable that the whole thing must be torn down. In fact, in some ways, they court agreement with moderates, centrists and even some right-leaning anarchists and libertarians in some ways (at least as it might apply to government or corporate capture of government).
So there's consensus in destruction. There's zero consensus in what to build in the wake of that destruction. Theres' little enclaves of DIYers, doomsday preppers, anarcho-houses, urban farmers, etc..
So what you will have, if said destruction ever gets anywhere is a power vacuum they're unable to fill.
And instead what will fill it is foreign powers, capital forces worse than what you already have, criminal/mob groups, and a whole lot worse actors than we already have.
Downvote me too. But 25 year old, often testosterone pumped up male, radicals normally can't see 5ft in front of their face. All they see is what they're mad at, at the moment, what is immediately unjust and they're willing to throw the baby out with the bath water like a Republican is to the entire taxation system.
- jessaustin 5y ago...capital forces worse than what you already have... This sounds interesting, if a bit frightening. Could you describe these? What new innovations do the even worse capitalists have planned for us?
- loudtieblahblah 5y agoi was speaking fairly generally about an array of fairly complex things, but more simply and precisely - capitalism may drive much of our society and much of our government is captures by capital. But the democratic system isn't bent 100% to their will. Mostly, but not entirely. Sometimes capital is restrained by that system, sometimes the illusion that it's restrained must be maintained as they hide behind a wall of bureaucracy you're not tearing down capital without tearing down the state that enables it - the same state that keeps it at bay. you take off the safeties, and the influence of money to control becomes even more unfettered and uncontrolled. if you "tear the system down", it's not like the power money has will just go away. you'll end up in a more of an AnCap scenario than some left wing dream of anarcho-communism. Think..Somalia but with a lot more monied powers at play