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What system are you a fan of if you're not a fan of capitalism? I often get these economic/political systems and ideologies all confused and mixed up. What I

What system are you a fan of if you're not a fan of capitalism? I often get these economic/political systems and ideologies all confused and mixed up. What I will say is no matter what you have, if there are evil people at the helm it won't work out and so the way I see what system is the least worse when there are bad players up top?

Miner49er 5y ago
I'm not OP, but sounds like you're looking for anarchism? It's all about decentralizing power, to avoid evil people being in control, as you say.
0xbadcafebee 5y ago
Oh, they all suck. Strictly speaking, I believe every human-led system will end in tyranny. But it should be technically possible to modify most any system to optimize towards better outcomes. The problem is when people fight changes on principle, rather than compromise for greater good. Evil people don't really exist in the sense most people mean. The whole concept of an evil person is that there's something uniquely broken about them that we could avoid if we just selected the right people. But the truth is that all humans have the capability for evil, and circumstances and flexible morality conspire to lead people towards evil. Evil is more of an eventuality of humanity than some kind of bug, and people at the helm are just inherently more susceptible, like bacteria in a petri dish. Therefore, we can't just hope to remove evil people from the helm. We have to design the helm to work in spite of evil at it. For example, we've been incredibly lucky in the USA that our leaders have been ineffective at wielding their power for truly evil means, a la Hitler. But the system today completely supports evil actions. The only check on evil in the system today is its wildly differing political/cultural makeup. We could probably also add anti-evil properties to the system's design. The trouble is, the people at the helm are the least likely to apply those changes, because it reduces their capability for evil. It's a dilemma. And the final dilemma is, evil tends to dominate. If our system isn't capable of evil, we might not be able to fight off a more evil society. Evil might be a necessary component of a thriving political/economic ecosystem, like bacteria in nature.

Miner49er 5y ago

I'm not OP, but sounds like you're looking for anarchism? It's all about decentralizing power, to avoid evil people being in control, as you say.

0xbadcafebee 5y ago

Oh, they all suck. Strictly speaking, I believe every human-led system will end in tyranny. But it should be technically possible to modify most any system to optimize towards better outcomes. The problem is when people fight changes on principle, rather than compromise for greater good. Evil people don't really exist in the sense most people mean. The whole concept of an evil person is that there's something uniquely broken about them that we could avoid if we just selected the right people. But the truth is that all humans have the capability for evil, and circumstances and flexible morality conspire to lead people towards evil. Evil is more of an eventuality of humanity than some kind of bug, and people at the helm are just inherently more susceptible, like bacteria in a petri dish. Therefore, we can't just hope to remove evil people from the helm. We have to design the helm to work in spite of evil at it. For example, we've been incredibly lucky in the USA that our leaders have been ineffective at wielding their power for truly evil means, a la Hitler. But the system today completely supports evil actions. The only check on evil in the system today is its wildly differing political/cultural makeup. We could probably also add anti-evil properties to the system's design. The trouble is, the people at the helm are the least likely to apply those changes, because it reduces their capability for evil. It's a dilemma. And the final dilemma is, evil tends to dominate. If our system isn't capable of evil, we might not be able to fight off a more evil society. Evil might be a necessary component of a thriving political/economic ecosystem, like bacteria in nature.