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Would it be that hard to build some cost overrun plans? If threshold (x) hit then do: - Email me - Stop Servers XYZ - Leave Servers ABC running. If thresho

Would it be that hard to build some cost overrun plans? If threshold (x) hit then do: - Email me - Stop Servers XYZ - Leave Servers ABC running. If threshold (y) hit then do: - Email me / Call me - Shut everything down.

phone8675309 5y ago
Shared hosting providers from the late 90s onward typically had systems like this standard.
- thatwasunusual 5y ago
  I'm pretty sure they didn't have to potentially call as many clients as today. :)
- partisan 5y ago
  Both AWS and shared hosting providers run on a “F you. Pay me!” model. The difference is that small hosting resellers knew they couldn’t collect on debts while Amazon knows it can.
- thak788 5y ago
  If your talking about crappanel exceeded bandwidth suspension page it wasn't realltime, can't remember if default was 1hr,6hr, 24 though
  - lostcolony 5y ago
    Even if not realtime, it sounds like a better option than AWS' current "not supported at all; you'll have to manually shut things down if costs overrun".
geoduck14 5y ago
>Shut everything down Ok. But the Auto Scaling Groups are free - so I can keep that on, right? Oh, look! They just launched more EV2s, how convenient. Should I back these up to S3? With CRR enabled? Tee hee hee
Jach 5y ago
AWS sorta has something like this already with CloudWatch, but it'd be nice if it was simpler and immediate instead of reactive. I just run a little reserved EC2 instance so my main billing risks are excessive data out or forgetting to renew a reservation and reverting to by-the-hour billing. So that I don't worry about it much I have three alarms that notify me if either "estimated charges > $x for 1 datapoints within 6 hours", or there's "anomalous" NetworkOut over a day, or "there's more than X total NetworkOut over a day", and another alarm that's "NetworkOut > Y for 1 datapoint within 15 minutes" that notifies me and shuts the instance down. I'd like to have a hard cap of "my instantaneous billing running total for the month, not my 'estimate', has exceeded $x, shut everything down" but what's there is something.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  I use AWS for a very small side project. I used about $10 back in July, and I don't expect any more costs for several months (aside from S3 hosting). It would be really nice if I could preload $100 into the account and remove my credit card. I don't have ANYTHING sensitive behind my username and password- except my CC # I know they are never going to implement this because I'm small potatoes, but it would be nice
  - mwarkentin 5y ago
    I think they just added this: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/07/aws-allows-customers-pay-their-usage-in-advance/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/07/aws-allow...
    - Nexxxeh 5y ago
      Do they say that you won't go over the prepaid amount? I can't see that in the pages that I've read, but maybe I missed it.
  - hellbannedguy 5y ago
    Buy a prepaid cc. $7.00 for up to $500
thatwasunusual 5y ago
I came here to basically say something like this: if there's a hard limit, your business will basically shut down entirely. It's hard (impossible) for cloud providers to automagically shut down services based on each customer's priorities. I don't think there's a magical solution to this. There might be a company that sets a $1K USD/month limit, forgets about it, and suddenly the cloud provider shuts down everything a year later, while "everyone" is unavailable or something like that. There are so many scenarios, and I honestly feel that the cloud providers have decided on the most fool-proof solution both for them and their clients.

phone8675309 5y ago

Shared hosting providers from the late 90s onward typically had systems like this standard.

thatwasunusual 5y ago
I'm pretty sure they didn't have to potentially call as many clients as today. :)
partisan 5y ago
Both AWS and shared hosting providers run on a “F you. Pay me!” model. The difference is that small hosting resellers knew they couldn’t collect on debts while Amazon knows it can.
thak788 5y ago
If your talking about crappanel exceeded bandwidth suspension page it wasn't realltime, can't remember if default was 1hr,6hr, 24 though
- lostcolony 5y ago
  Even if not realtime, it sounds like a better option than AWS' current "not supported at all; you'll have to manually shut things down if costs overrun".

geoduck14 5y ago

>Shut everything down Ok. But the Auto Scaling Groups are free - so I can keep that on, right? Oh, look! They just launched more EV2s, how convenient. Should I back these up to S3? With CRR enabled? Tee hee hee

Jach 5y ago

AWS sorta has something like this already with CloudWatch, but it'd be nice if it was simpler and immediate instead of reactive. I just run a little reserved EC2 instance so my main billing risks are excessive data out or forgetting to renew a reservation and reverting to by-the-hour billing. So that I don't worry about it much I have three alarms that notify me if either "estimated charges > $x for 1 datapoints within 6 hours", or there's "anomalous" NetworkOut over a day, or "there's more than X total NetworkOut over a day", and another alarm that's "NetworkOut > Y for 1 datapoint within 15 minutes" that notifies me and shuts the instance down. I'd like to have a hard cap of "my instantaneous billing running total for the month, not my 'estimate', has exceeded $x, shut everything down" but what's there is something.

geoduck14 5y ago
I use AWS for a very small side project. I used about $10 back in July, and I don't expect any more costs for several months (aside from S3 hosting). It would be really nice if I could preload $100 into the account and remove my credit card. I don't have ANYTHING sensitive behind my username and password- except my CC # I know they are never going to implement this because I'm small potatoes, but it would be nice
- mwarkentin 5y ago
  I think they just added this: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/07/aws-allows-customers-pay-their-usage-in-advance/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/07/aws-allow...
  - Nexxxeh 5y ago
    Do they say that you won't go over the prepaid amount? I can't see that in the pages that I've read, but maybe I missed it.
- hellbannedguy 5y ago
  Buy a prepaid cc. $7.00 for up to $500

thatwasunusual 5y ago

I came here to basically say something like this: if there's a hard limit, your business will basically shut down entirely. It's hard (impossible) for cloud providers to automagically shut down services based on each customer's priorities. I don't think there's a magical solution to this. There might be a company that sets a $1K USD/month limit, forgets about it, and suddenly the cloud provider shuts down everything a year later, while "everyone" is unavailable or something like that. There are so many scenarios, and I honestly feel that the cloud providers have decided on the most fool-proof solution both for them and their clients.