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> Quarantine for coronavirus, in a pandemic that’s claimed millions of lives. So are we going to do a quarantine for the flu next? A pandemic that claims up to

by kongin 5y ago

> Quarantine for coronavirus, in a pandemic that’s claimed millions of lives. So are we going to do a quarantine for the flu next? A pandemic that claims up to a 2 million lives a year globally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_United_States_flu_season https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_United_State...

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docmars 5y ago
Precisely. It is the best cover up for global domination while distracting populations with concern trolling around a virus that is not all that significantly worse than the flu given the level of risk across all age groups. Heart failure and car accidents claim a higher risk.
DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
For pandemic flu, yes, quarantine would be reasonable. The 1918 pandemic claimed tens of millions of lives.
- kongin 5y ago
  The 2017 flu season killed 200 Americans per million, world wide that amounts to 1,400,000 people. Should we have locked down in 2017?
  - DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
    Which means that CoVID-19 has had about 10 times the impact as seasonal flu. That's extremely serious.
    - kongin 5y ago
      Which means that a bad flu season has had about 10% the impact of covid. That's extremely serious. Should we have locked down in 2017? What number of deaths is the magic one where we decide that it's too much and we need to close everything for years on end?
      - DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
        There's no magic number, but CoVID-19 is the most serious public health emergency in probably a century. > we need to close everything for years on end? Countries that properly managed the pandemic locked down hard for a few weeks, eliminated the virus, and then reopened. They've been back to normal (or something close to it) for most of the time since.
        kongin 5y ago
        > There's no magic number, but CoVID-19 is the most serious public health emergency in probably a century. Do you know what AIDS is? Unlike Covid which kills something under 1 in 100 people it infects AIDS until the mid 90s was a death sentence for anyone who got it. I remember being in an emergency room and the nurse asking for people to give blood because their blood banks were tainted and the doctors could either let patients die from from blood loss or in 10 years from AIDS. I have no idea why that whole pandemic has been pushed down the memory hole. It's like everyone born after 1985 doesn't even know what it is, let alone what it was like to see people you know just wilt and die. >Countries that properly managed the pandemic locked down hard for a few weeks, eliminated the virus, and then reopened. They've been back to normal (or something close to it) for most of the time since. Countries that don't have it keep having to lock down for two weeks every three months. NZ is the most successful and they are currently in their 5th national lockdown.
        DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
        > Do you know what AIDS is? What kind of a question is that? It's a horrible disease, and it shows how important it is to have a good public health system. > Countries that don't have it keep having to lock down for two weeks every three months. China hasn't had a widespread lockdown since early 2020. In recent outbreaks, lockdowns have been very geographically limited. For example, the Guangzhou outbreak in May-June 2021 was ended without locking down more than just a few districts of the city. Mass testing, contact tracing, and testing requirements for people leaving the city were sufficient.
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docmars 5y ago

Precisely. It is the best cover up for global domination while distracting populations with concern trolling around a virus that is not all that significantly worse than the flu given the level of risk across all age groups. Heart failure and car accidents claim a higher risk.

DiogenesKynikos 5y ago

For pandemic flu, yes, quarantine would be reasonable. The 1918 pandemic claimed tens of millions of lives.

kongin 5y ago
The 2017 flu season killed 200 Americans per million, world wide that amounts to 1,400,000 people. Should we have locked down in 2017?
- DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
  Which means that CoVID-19 has had about 10 times the impact as seasonal flu. That's extremely serious.
  - kongin 5y ago
    Which means that a bad flu season has had about 10% the impact of covid. That's extremely serious. Should we have locked down in 2017? What number of deaths is the magic one where we decide that it's too much and we need to close everything for years on end?
    - DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
      There's no magic number, but CoVID-19 is the most serious public health emergency in probably a century. > we need to close everything for years on end? Countries that properly managed the pandemic locked down hard for a few weeks, eliminated the virus, and then reopened. They've been back to normal (or something close to it) for most of the time since.
      - kongin 5y ago
        > There's no magic number, but CoVID-19 is the most serious public health emergency in probably a century. Do you know what AIDS is? Unlike Covid which kills something under 1 in 100 people it infects AIDS until the mid 90s was a death sentence for anyone who got it. I remember being in an emergency room and the nurse asking for people to give blood because their blood banks were tainted and the doctors could either let patients die from from blood loss or in 10 years from AIDS. I have no idea why that whole pandemic has been pushed down the memory hole. It's like everyone born after 1985 doesn't even know what it is, let alone what it was like to see people you know just wilt and die. >Countries that properly managed the pandemic locked down hard for a few weeks, eliminated the virus, and then reopened. They've been back to normal (or something close to it) for most of the time since. Countries that don't have it keep having to lock down for two weeks every three months. NZ is the most successful and they are currently in their 5th national lockdown.
        DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
        > Do you know what AIDS is? What kind of a question is that? It's a horrible disease, and it shows how important it is to have a good public health system. > Countries that don't have it keep having to lock down for two weeks every three months. China hasn't had a widespread lockdown since early 2020. In recent outbreaks, lockdowns have been very geographically limited. For example, the Guangzhou outbreak in May-June 2021 was ended without locking down more than just a few districts of the city. Mass testing, contact tracing, and testing requirements for people leaving the city were sufficient.
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