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It is indeed impossible. There’s not a scooter which costs $1k (you’d be hard pressed to find a good mountain bike for that amount).
by flyinglizard 5y ago
It is indeed impossible. There’s not a scooter which costs $1k (you’d be hard pressed to find a good mountain bike for that amount).
- xxs 5y agoI can't think of any half-decent bike that would cost that much, even with a steel frame.
- flyinglizard 5y agoAre we talking mountain bikes? Because you certainly aren’t getting a full suspension for $1k. The cheapest Specialized hard tail MTB is about $800.
- xxs 5y agoYes, exactly what I said - I can't think of a half-decent bike that would cost $1k, they are way over that.
- flyinglizard 5y agoAh, I was confused by your use of “as much” - I’d have expected a phrasing of “wouldn’t cost that little” although clearly you are not wrong.
- reginold 5y agoHere's a $930 EV on Alibaba, reviewed by Jalopnik. Seats 4: https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-the-worlds-cheapest-electric-car-is-like-to-1843904305 https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-the-worlds-cheapest-electric...
- yazaddaruvala 5y agoAnd in the year 1990 you couldn’t buy a supercomputer that fit in your pocket for $1000 either. Today everyone has one. What exactly makes this case different?
- xxs 5y agoDennard scaling/Moore's law. We pretty knew back then it'd happen. Most of the progress has been iterative but the basic process/lithography is still very similar. There is no indication or massive breakthrough in material science that would allow anything similar to what we have been seeing in the electronics development for the past 50 years.
- yazaddaruvala 5y ago> There is no indication or massive breakthrough in material science that would allow anything similar Then you may not be paying attention. Battery costs have been dropping exponentially and we are only starting to really invest capital and scale production. Meanwhile: 1. Solid state batteries, 2. 3D printed metal, 3. Algorithmically optimized design. Before 2018 battery production was basically negligible. We have only truly started to scale our need for storage in 2018. Today 3D printed metal is in its infancy, but has truly significant potential. I’m very excited to see how companies like Relativity Space, etc mature this tech and how it will disrupt current manufacturing. Even just giga molding is disruptive, let alone printing which will use significantly less metal and significantly reduce capital investment for manufacturing (i.e. something like AWS for manufacturing).
- Ekaros 5y agoYou can find pretty cheap remote controlled electric cars today. Even for less than 50$... Though size might be somewhat issue. But hey aren't those in pocket also lot smaller?
- flyinglizard 5y agoBecause progress is mostly done on value and not absolute costs. An IBM XT PC cost $5k in present day dollars back in 1985. Computers today are exponentially better but maintain a modest linear price adjustment. Going back to your post verbatim, super computers today still cost hundreds of millions and need an entire building; the definition of what makes a computer “super” is what evolved, not their cost or other burdens.
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- reginold 5y agoHere's a $930 EV on Alibaba, reviewed by Jalopnik. Seats 4: https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-the-worlds-cheapest-electric-car-is-like-to-1843904305 https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-the-worlds-cheapest-electric...
- flyinglizard 5y agoThat isn’t going to pass any sort of western world safety regulation to go on roads.
- reginold 5y agoYou said it's impossible, I showed it's possible, and then now you say as-is it's not going to pass regulation in certain countries. Okay.