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Innovative? I have been using qutebrowser for a while, and don't see the appeal of this. I just press a binding, start typing the name of the tab (fuzzy), get t

Innovative? I have been using qutebrowser for a while, and don't see the appeal of this. I just press a binding, start typing the name of the tab (fuzzy), get the list of matches, choose and there I am. As a basic example among many. Nyxt is just as powerful, if not more. If you like visual layouts like the one offered then OK, but not me, I think it's distracting and unnecessary. BTW the headline is blown af

davidatbu 5y ago
I'm an avid qutebrowser user too! Thanks for introducing me to Nyxt. I'm curious, why are you using qutebrowser if Nyxt is _at least_ as powerful as QB?
- maydup-nem 5y ago
  Nyxt is more extensible due to CL, which I like. However qutebrowser is working just fine for me so far and I didn't like how some things worked out of the box in Nyxt, and was too lazy to customize them.
  - davidatbu 5y ago
    Got it. Thanks.
culopatin 5y ago
Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll. Good for you that you enjoy something different, but I doubt anyone thinks “I think this is innovative, but let me check with maydup first because he knows it all”.
- maydup-nem 5y ago
  > Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll wat? I responded to this: > this is the most innovative thing in the browser space for a long while I simply mentioned how there have been some other browsers for a while that have an equivalent feature set, therefore this isn't so innovative. The fucking snowflakes. Where every opinion must be cherished and never argued with.
  - culopatin 5y ago
    I think you confused what I mean. I was asking if you were always pedantic. I said nothing about not starting a debate. It’s the way you communicate, not what you communicate. Your tone makes it seem like you just want to toot your own horn and not like you want to actually have a conversation about the topic. Maybe you could’ve said “there is this other application that I’ve been using that’s been out for a while and has innovated the browser in similar ways, check it out” Do whatever you want, I just think you might promote healthier conversations if you don’t come across as pedantic. Unless you’re a troll or proud of your tone, either way, thanks for your time.
    - maydup-nem 5y ago
      Well, when something is presented as innovative, while it's really not (given the context of "browser space"), and you say so, how is it pedantry? There was an overenthusiastic false statement, and I responded to it accordingly, that's all.
uxcolumbo 5y ago
Just because it's not useful or innovative to you, doesn't mean it isn't to others. It's always good to have more players in this game and to me what they are trying to do seems more approachable than the examples you showed.
- hnlmorg 5y ago
  > It's always good to have more players in this game I agree with your overall points but this but stood out to me because it's not clear if Bonsai uses its own rendering engine of it is just another reskin of Blink / Chromium. What we really need is more competition with browsers which use their own rendering engines. Or at the very least, more browsers using Gecko (Firefox). If this is another Chromium-based browser then it's still definitely good to see some new ideas in UI but we don't really see much other benefit having more players in the game. What worries me the most is that this is closed source but presented as if it is open source. Their binaries are stored on Github but there's literally nothing in the repo aside a README (https://github.com/hyferg/bonsai-browser-public https://github.com/hyferg/bonsai-browser-public). This is of particular concern given the sensitive content that people use browsers for these days (banking, shopping, research on potentially sensitive topics, etc). It would be trivial for a malicious browser to do some real damage to people and there's no way to prove this browser's intentions are sincere given how little information (ie "none") is published about its developers or even the code.
  - hyferg 5y ago
    I'll edit the readme of that repo to make it more clear. We're distributing the browser off of github so we don't have to pay for download bandwidth and because it integrates with our CI. Our website got 1TB of traffic yesterday (which it turns out I have to pay for) and thats without hosting the binary on our site!
    - hnlmorg 5y ago
      Your website is a static page. You should put that behind CloudFlare (or similar) and get them to handle the traffic for you.
mavhc 5y ago
Is that the same as ctrl-shift-a in Chrome?
- maydup-nem 5y ago
  Can't say, not using Chrome, but I wouldn't be surprised. It does seem like a no brainer to have in a browser, along with tab groups (which qutebrowser currently seems to lack).
- vidarh 5y ago
  You can also just search tabs directly in the address bar (though then intermingled with other matches)
Existenceblinks 5y ago
> I think it's distracting I'm confused why the thread got so much upvotes, and a lot of comments made me more confused. Not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand the usefulness ..

davidatbu 5y ago

I'm an avid qutebrowser user too! Thanks for introducing me to Nyxt. I'm curious, why are you using qutebrowser if Nyxt is _at least_ as powerful as QB?

maydup-nem 5y ago
Nyxt is more extensible due to CL, which I like. However qutebrowser is working just fine for me so far and I didn't like how some things worked out of the box in Nyxt, and was too lazy to customize them.
- davidatbu 5y ago
  Got it. Thanks.

culopatin 5y ago

Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll. Good for you that you enjoy something different, but I doubt anyone thinks “I think this is innovative, but let me check with maydup first because he knows it all”.

maydup-nem 5y ago
> Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll wat? I responded to this: > this is the most innovative thing in the browser space for a long while I simply mentioned how there have been some other browsers for a while that have an equivalent feature set, therefore this isn't so innovative. The fucking snowflakes. Where every opinion must be cherished and never argued with.
- culopatin 5y ago
  I think you confused what I mean. I was asking if you were always pedantic. I said nothing about not starting a debate. It’s the way you communicate, not what you communicate. Your tone makes it seem like you just want to toot your own horn and not like you want to actually have a conversation about the topic. Maybe you could’ve said “there is this other application that I’ve been using that’s been out for a while and has innovated the browser in similar ways, check it out” Do whatever you want, I just think you might promote healthier conversations if you don’t come across as pedantic. Unless you’re a troll or proud of your tone, either way, thanks for your time.
  - maydup-nem 5y ago
    Well, when something is presented as innovative, while it's really not (given the context of "browser space"), and you say so, how is it pedantry? There was an overenthusiastic false statement, and I responded to it accordingly, that's all.

uxcolumbo 5y ago

Just because it's not useful or innovative to you, doesn't mean it isn't to others. It's always good to have more players in this game and to me what they are trying to do seems more approachable than the examples you showed.

hnlmorg 5y ago
> It's always good to have more players in this game I agree with your overall points but this but stood out to me because it's not clear if Bonsai uses its own rendering engine of it is just another reskin of Blink / Chromium. What we really need is more competition with browsers which use their own rendering engines. Or at the very least, more browsers using Gecko (Firefox). If this is another Chromium-based browser then it's still definitely good to see some new ideas in UI but we don't really see much other benefit having more players in the game. What worries me the most is that this is closed source but presented as if it is open source. Their binaries are stored on Github but there's literally nothing in the repo aside a README (https://github.com/hyferg/bonsai-browser-public https://github.com/hyferg/bonsai-browser-public). This is of particular concern given the sensitive content that people use browsers for these days (banking, shopping, research on potentially sensitive topics, etc). It would be trivial for a malicious browser to do some real damage to people and there's no way to prove this browser's intentions are sincere given how little information (ie "none") is published about its developers or even the code.
- hyferg 5y ago
  I'll edit the readme of that repo to make it more clear. We're distributing the browser off of github so we don't have to pay for download bandwidth and because it integrates with our CI. Our website got 1TB of traffic yesterday (which it turns out I have to pay for) and thats without hosting the binary on our site!
  - hnlmorg 5y ago
    Your website is a static page. You should put that behind CloudFlare (or similar) and get them to handle the traffic for you.

mavhc 5y ago

Is that the same as ctrl-shift-a in Chrome?

maydup-nem 5y ago
Can't say, not using Chrome, but I wouldn't be surprised. It does seem like a no brainer to have in a browser, along with tab groups (which qutebrowser currently seems to lack).
vidarh 5y ago
You can also just search tabs directly in the address bar (though then intermingled with other matches)

Existenceblinks 5y ago

> I think it's distracting I'm confused why the thread got so much upvotes, and a lot of comments made me more confused. Not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand the usefulness ..