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1200+ cases in NSW out of a population of over 8 million. So we should extend a strict lockdown … to do what exactly? Is the plan to manage this virus with a

1200+ cases in NSW out of a population of over 8 million. So we should extend a strict lockdown … to do what exactly? Is the plan to manage this virus with a series of alternating lockdowns and get the number of cases to zero? Is this realistic, is this the type of world you want to live in? The virus appears to be as contagious as chicken pox, vaccines help with serious cases but are doing little unfortunately to stop the spread. At what point do you think it would make sense to manage the disease and resume normal life instead of draconian lockdowns for a untenable goal?

shushpanchik 5y ago
Please put some effort in getting information instead of creating straw man. NSW and Victoria are in a lockdown to have time to get 70-80% of eligible population double-vaccinated. Modelling by couple of institutes show that if lockdown ends today, hospitals would be overwhelmed and lots of preventable deaths occur. By all estimates we would reach that 70-80% number in 1-3 months time, so that's the plan. Google for "Doherty Institute planning", visit https://covidlive.com.au https://covidlive.com.au, check daily press conference of VIC and NSW premiers - answers to your questions are in plain sight.
- CountDrewku 5y ago
  So the "plan" is to do what other countries have already done and didn't stop the spread? That's a bold strategy Cotton.
bjwood 5y ago
To be clear, that's 1200 cases in one day. There are currently 26907 active cases in NSW. The goal of the lockdown is to keep new case numbers as low as possible so a greater percentage of the population has the chance to be vaccinated. Nobody is suggesting it's going to zero. Living with Covid, as you suggest, is the end goal. You're advocating for the current plan.
quickthrower2 5y ago
To answer the last question they plan to open up once double vaccination rates hit a target I think 80%. I think this makes sense.
- switch007 5y ago
  The target will move once it hits 80%. This is so obvious I feel sorry for all of you/them
  - quickthrower2 5y ago
    We’ve been in and come out of a lockdown before. I’m not worried.
  - mykmallett 5y ago
    The target is moving indeed, it's going down. NSW didn't want to lock down at all, but had to.
    - switch007 5y ago
      > but had to Why? "Unvaccinated people in New South Wales could be barred from locations and denied movement freedoms even after the state achieves 80% double dose vaccination" https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/13/nsw-unvaccinated-could-be-denied-freedoms-at-80-target-premier-says-as-1257-covid-cases-recorded https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/13/nsw-u... > the premier, Gladys Berejiklian, warning vaccine-hesitant residents they will not be able to “let everybody else do the hard work and then turn up” for equal freedoms. > “I just want to send the very strong message that don’t assume you’ll get everything that vaccinated people get at 80%.” Vaccine apartheid. Enjoy ! I'm glad I visited long ago
mykmallett 5y ago
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shushpanchik 5y ago

Please put some effort in getting information instead of creating straw man. NSW and Victoria are in a lockdown to have time to get 70-80% of eligible population double-vaccinated. Modelling by couple of institutes show that if lockdown ends today, hospitals would be overwhelmed and lots of preventable deaths occur. By all estimates we would reach that 70-80% number in 1-3 months time, so that's the plan. Google for "Doherty Institute planning", visit https://covidlive.com.au https://covidlive.com.au, check daily press conference of VIC and NSW premiers - answers to your questions are in plain sight.

CountDrewku 5y ago
So the "plan" is to do what other countries have already done and didn't stop the spread? That's a bold strategy Cotton.

bjwood 5y ago

To be clear, that's 1200 cases in one day. There are currently 26907 active cases in NSW. The goal of the lockdown is to keep new case numbers as low as possible so a greater percentage of the population has the chance to be vaccinated. Nobody is suggesting it's going to zero. Living with Covid, as you suggest, is the end goal. You're advocating for the current plan.

quickthrower2 5y ago

To answer the last question they plan to open up once double vaccination rates hit a target I think 80%. I think this makes sense.

switch007 5y ago
The target will move once it hits 80%. This is so obvious I feel sorry for all of you/them
- quickthrower2 5y ago
  We’ve been in and come out of a lockdown before. I’m not worried.
- mykmallett 5y ago
  The target is moving indeed, it's going down. NSW didn't want to lock down at all, but had to.
  - switch007 5y ago
    > but had to Why? "Unvaccinated people in New South Wales could be barred from locations and denied movement freedoms even after the state achieves 80% double dose vaccination" https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/13/nsw-unvaccinated-could-be-denied-freedoms-at-80-target-premier-says-as-1257-covid-cases-recorded https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/13/nsw-u... > the premier, Gladys Berejiklian, warning vaccine-hesitant residents they will not be able to “let everybody else do the hard work and then turn up” for equal freedoms. > “I just want to send the very strong message that don’t assume you’ll get everything that vaccinated people get at 80%.” Vaccine apartheid. Enjoy ! I'm glad I visited long ago

mykmallett 5y ago

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