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This is a great list of companies that I will avoid applying for. I don’t live in Colorado, but there’s something kind of I don’t know, petulant? Childish? Will

This is a great list of companies that I will avoid applying for. I don’t live in Colorado, but there’s something kind of I don’t know, petulant? Childish? Willfully insulting? to the phrase “ Remote work location is flexible if approved by the Company, except that position can not be performed remotely from Colorado.” I think what really sticks in my craw about that statement is that it’s a bold-faced lie. If a company were to say “we are unwilling to share how much we’re willing to pay because we’d prefer to underpay every person possible “ I’d respect it more than “this remote job is impossible to perform because of, uhhhh, geography”

kelnos 5y ago
That was my feeling as well. They don't like the rules of the game, so they're taking their ball and going home. It's always really telling to me when a company tries to avoid a law that genuinely provides for a more level playing field for existing and/or potential employees. I don't live in CO, so this wouldn't affect me, but seeing a company take this attitude is a red flag about their take on the employer-employee relationship. And as a software developer, I'm lucky that demand is high enough that I have no need to bother with companies who wear red flags like that on their sleeves for all to see.
hackingforfun 5y ago
Regarding remote jobs and geography, there are also nexus laws to consider. Companies are sometimes only set up to have employees in certain states. The larger the company, the more states they will have nexus in. If a company hasn't already set up nexus in a state, and if it's for just one employee, they might not want to set up nexus there, for tax reasons. I was told this when I was considering moving to another state (in the US), and asked my employer. I was told no based on that they did not have nexus in that state, and it would be a hassle for them to do so. What I learned from that is that remote doesn't necessarily mean work / live anywhere, even if moving within the same country.
- newbie789 5y ago
  > Regarding remote jobs and geography, there are also nexus laws to consider. Companies are sometimes only set up to have employees in certain states. It is a true statement that there’s an extant possibility that some businesses are incapable of operating in the state of Colorado for reasons that have nothing to do with artificially depressing wages. My comment about not wanting to work for or with these companies is due to them nakedly advertising that they’re valuing the artificial depression of wages. While it’s a neat thought that there maybe exists a universe where it’s a coincidence that “anywhere in the country but Colorado” became a common phrase in job postings, I’m not really sure why entertaining that fantasy is useful. To clarify, I’m directly addressing clearly worker-hostile behavior that I can see happening plainly, not a theoretical that could be happening at a business inside of a thought experiment. I doubt these businesses will suffer without my being employed with them so I don’t really care.

kelnos 5y ago

That was my feeling as well. They don't like the rules of the game, so they're taking their ball and going home. It's always really telling to me when a company tries to avoid a law that genuinely provides for a more level playing field for existing and/or potential employees. I don't live in CO, so this wouldn't affect me, but seeing a company take this attitude is a red flag about their take on the employer-employee relationship. And as a software developer, I'm lucky that demand is high enough that I have no need to bother with companies who wear red flags like that on their sleeves for all to see.

hackingforfun 5y ago

Regarding remote jobs and geography, there are also nexus laws to consider. Companies are sometimes only set up to have employees in certain states. The larger the company, the more states they will have nexus in. If a company hasn't already set up nexus in a state, and if it's for just one employee, they might not want to set up nexus there, for tax reasons. I was told this when I was considering moving to another state (in the US), and asked my employer. I was told no based on that they did not have nexus in that state, and it would be a hassle for them to do so. What I learned from that is that remote doesn't necessarily mean work / live anywhere, even if moving within the same country.

newbie789 5y ago
> Regarding remote jobs and geography, there are also nexus laws to consider. Companies are sometimes only set up to have employees in certain states. It is a true statement that there’s an extant possibility that some businesses are incapable of operating in the state of Colorado for reasons that have nothing to do with artificially depressing wages. My comment about not wanting to work for or with these companies is due to them nakedly advertising that they’re valuing the artificial depression of wages. While it’s a neat thought that there maybe exists a universe where it’s a coincidence that “anywhere in the country but Colorado” became a common phrase in job postings, I’m not really sure why entertaining that fantasy is useful. To clarify, I’m directly addressing clearly worker-hostile behavior that I can see happening plainly, not a theoretical that could be happening at a business inside of a thought experiment. I doubt these businesses will suffer without my being employed with them so I don’t really care.