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It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restriction

by iotku 5y ago

It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography. By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction) Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.

laurent92 5y ago
Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)
- wiskinator 5y ago
  In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
- iotku 5y ago
  Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
- meowface 5y ago
  Veritasium is very political? Can you link a video where politics comes in at all, let alone something that's very political? https://www.youtube.com/c/veritasium/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/veritasium/videos Maybe the driverless car one can be seen as somewhat political (by advocating for use of self-driving cars), but it's not necessarily a polarizing issue split along US political party lines, at the moment. Or do you mean the host of the channel is very political, whether or not any of that is indicated in any of the videos?
  - rg111 5y ago
    I found only this video to be slightly political: Is Success Luck or Hard Work? (https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I) I don't know about any other video that has any politics in them.
    - kbenson 5y ago
      Maybe, inasmuch as it's espousing an idea that is generally more associated with one party than the other, but the focus is really that idea, and it's supporting evidence, not how it related to politics or the parties and how they view it. I would hope people try to asses it on the merits of the arguments and examples, and not how they perceive it related to a specific political agenda they are for or against.
      - rg111 5y ago
        Absolutely agree. But this is political in current situation, which I don't like.
jvdheuvel 5y ago
If you use the LBRY app from this repository you can get more results, https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases
joe_guy 5y ago
> Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully. I find high curation is the only way I find a service like YouTube to be usable. There's an endless sea of content on there. It's not important that I agree with it or not, it's important if it's quality, which the overwhelming majority of it isn't. I'm looking at the landing page of odysee now. * Why can't Wolverine shack up with doctor strange? * 1 minute of Luigi in a bag!!! * Top sleep hacks * Guess how old this Korean actress is? I can't block these channels or show disinterest even though I made an account. My issue isn't the politicalness, it's quality and relevance.
- iotku 5y ago
  >I'm looking at the landing page of odysee now. [...] I think your examples are a valid criticism, it's just that many of the alternatives are far worse (depending on your standpoint) FWIW I would suggest looking at the home page of YouTube in incognito mode, most of the videos don't meet my quality standards either. * TikToks that will get you in trouble * Medical Emergencies: When Acts Go Horribly WRONG! * Family Guy roasting every country >I can't block these channels or show disinterest even though I made an account. Yeah I think appropriate filtering options are vital for less curated platforms to be more usable. That's not an impossible problem to solve, but I would have expected better options by now. >My issue isn't the politicalness, it's quality and relevance. I think it's mainly a chicken and egg problem, there's not as much quality content as I'd prefer so there's less relevant quality content. My biggest hope is that a certain threshold can be met where more quality content will be added and people aren't scared by the preexisting lower quality content that they don't want to be associated with. There's definitely a need for there to be some competition to YouTube (Google et al.), but it's a pretty large hill to overcome to get there. Of course YouTube still has a very strong hand in regards to monetization.
- strainer 5y ago
  The prominent Linux tech blogger, Bryan Lunduke left and denounced them this summer despite having been an early adopter and supporter. He had made a complaint on how they chose to give an exclusive spotlight to a partiuclarly trashy channel and then recieved a reply from their "Cheif Marketing Officer" which was itself shamelessly vulgar and trashy and boasted that such trash is "the Odysee Brand". Lundukes explaination for leaving seems to be only archived in his subscription/free-to-view social network lunduke.locals.com. For worthwhile content I hold more hope for rokfin - www.rokfin.com/discover

by iotku 5y ago

laurent92 5y ago

Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)

wiskinator 5y ago
In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
iotku 5y ago
Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
meowface 5y ago
Veritasium is very political? Can you link a video where politics comes in at all, let alone something that's very political? https://www.youtube.com/c/veritasium/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/veritasium/videos Maybe the driverless car one can be seen as somewhat political (by advocating for use of self-driving cars), but it's not necessarily a polarizing issue split along US political party lines, at the moment. Or do you mean the host of the channel is very political, whether or not any of that is indicated in any of the videos?
- rg111 5y ago
  I found only this video to be slightly political: Is Success Luck or Hard Work? (https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I) I don't know about any other video that has any politics in them.
  - kbenson 5y ago
    Maybe, inasmuch as it's espousing an idea that is generally more associated with one party than the other, but the focus is really that idea, and it's supporting evidence, not how it related to politics or the parties and how they view it. I would hope people try to asses it on the merits of the arguments and examples, and not how they perceive it related to a specific political agenda they are for or against.
    - rg111 5y ago
      Absolutely agree. But this is political in current situation, which I don't like.

jvdheuvel 5y ago

If you use the LBRY app from this repository you can get more results, https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases

joe_guy 5y ago

> Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully. I find high curation is the only way I find a service like YouTube to be usable. There's an endless sea of content on there. It's not important that I agree with it or not, it's important if it's quality, which the overwhelming majority of it isn't. I'm looking at the landing page of odysee now. * Why can't Wolverine shack up with doctor strange? * 1 minute of Luigi in a bag!!! * Top sleep hacks * Guess how old this Korean actress is? I can't block these channels or show disinterest even though I made an account. My issue isn't the politicalness, it's quality and relevance.

iotku 5y ago
>I'm looking at the landing page of odysee now. [...] I think your examples are a valid criticism, it's just that many of the alternatives are far worse (depending on your standpoint) FWIW I would suggest looking at the home page of YouTube in incognito mode, most of the videos don't meet my quality standards either. * TikToks that will get you in trouble * Medical Emergencies: When Acts Go Horribly WRONG! * Family Guy roasting every country >I can't block these channels or show disinterest even though I made an account. Yeah I think appropriate filtering options are vital for less curated platforms to be more usable. That's not an impossible problem to solve, but I would have expected better options by now. >My issue isn't the politicalness, it's quality and relevance. I think it's mainly a chicken and egg problem, there's not as much quality content as I'd prefer so there's less relevant quality content. My biggest hope is that a certain threshold can be met where more quality content will be added and people aren't scared by the preexisting lower quality content that they don't want to be associated with. There's definitely a need for there to be some competition to YouTube (Google et al.), but it's a pretty large hill to overcome to get there. Of course YouTube still has a very strong hand in regards to monetization.
strainer 5y ago
The prominent Linux tech blogger, Bryan Lunduke left and denounced them this summer despite having been an early adopter and supporter. He had made a complaint on how they chose to give an exclusive spotlight to a partiuclarly trashy channel and then recieved a reply from their "Cheif Marketing Officer" which was itself shamelessly vulgar and trashy and boasted that such trash is "the Odysee Brand". Lundukes explaination for leaving seems to be only archived in his subscription/free-to-view social network lunduke.locals.com. For worthwhile content I hold more hope for rokfin - www.rokfin.com/discover