Uh, if accounting is a fiction, well, I'm not going to say there isn't a kernel of truth to that, but it doesn't help us answer the question of who has debt res

Uh, if accounting is a fiction, well, I'm not going to say there isn't a kernel of truth to that, but it doesn't help us answer the question of who has debt responsibilities to whom; the entire enterprise is predicated axiomatically on "accounting fictions".