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Italian here, first time I see the word "plagio" used like this. We usually say plagio when someone does not respect a copyright, e.g. I wrote a book and someon
by a_chris 5y ago
Italian here, first time I see the word "plagio" used like this. We usually say plagio when someone does not respect a copyright, e.g. I wrote a book and someone copy the majority of book to write its own book
- zoover2020 5y agoPlagiarism?
- riffraff 5y agoYes. As an Italian, I agree with OP, I have never heard "plagio" to mean "brainwashing" or "mind control". EDIT: on second thought, there is the idiomatic expression "una persona è stata plagiata" which might be what the article is about. It is used in the sense of someone who's led astray by "evil" influences.
- blue1 5y agoIt is a technical term. See former article 603 cp (italian penal code).
- aww_dang 5y agoThe article goes into the etymology, explaining how the plagiaristic sense came about by a satirical use of the term in Roman times. >The word “plagio” is not of recent coinage. It derives from Roman law, which also created its present ambiguity, because “plagio” in Italian means both “mind control” and “plagiarism,” as in “My book has been victim of plagiarism.” It was the same in Latin, except that the meaning of “control of a human being” came first, and the meaning of “plagiarism” came later. >Responsible for this confusion was a satirical roman poet of the first century CE called Martial. In his epigram no. 52, Martial used the word “plagium” humorously and metaphorically. Just as those who try to pass off another person’s slave as their own are guilty of “plagium,” Martial said, so should be considered those who pass off a literary work they copied from somebody else as their own. They also commit “plagium,” protested Martial...
- AdrianB1 5y agoJust curious, were you an adult in 1981 when it was removed from legislation? If now, it may be just old history for you.
- ABS 5y agoplagio has multiple meanings, one it's the one you are referring to (e.g. plagiarasing someone else's work) and another is what this article is about. vittima di plagio, plagiare una persona, etc are all in common usage (and subject of study in psychology)
- gpderetta 5y agoAs an Italian, I did in fact hear 'plagio' being used in the sense described in the article. I did not know it was an actual article of law and that it was repealed before I was born.
- mmarq 5y agoIt’s not that rare, “è stato plagiato da x” (he’s been brainwashed by x), it’s relatively common (given that people don’t talk that much about brainwashing).
- qubex 5y agoActually “gli/ti hanno plagiato la mente” is a sentence that, as an Italian, I have heard often.
- q-rews 5y agoIncredibly, neither Treccani [1] nor Wiktionary mention that meaning even for the Latin word. [2] However there's a page on Wikipedia in English [3] and Italian [4] and also Treccani mentions this meaning in Plagiare’s thesaurus [5] only. If feels like it's meant as "to enslave", either physically or mentally. 1: https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/plagiare/ 2: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plagium 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagio 4: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagio_(ordinamento_penale_italiano) 5: https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/plagiare_%28Sinonimi-e-Contrari%29/
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- znpy 5y agoIt actually used to be more common, back when that kind of stuff was discussed from time to time (eg: back in the day when there was this huuuge general mania/phobia about "bestie di satana").
- dariosalvi78 5y agonever heard something like "mi hai plagiato la mente"?