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Well, probably ask your brother again, because All Engines Out is required for a pilots license in the US and most other countries. Even Helicopter pilots have

by zaarn 5y ago

Well, probably ask your brother again, because All Engines Out is required for a pilots license in the US and most other countries. Even Helicopter pilots have to train in the simulator for engine failure (autorotation landing). It must come up in training atleast once and every aircraft has an "all engine failure" checklist for this exact situation (The FAA recommended the addition of a "all engine failure at low altitude" checklist as well, which I believe has occured). Either your brother is incorrect about the simulator requirement, forgot about it or is flying a two-seater Cessna. You can verify this also by watching some of the videos of popular pilots on youtube such as Mentour of 74Crew.

ncmncm 5y ago
He flies 747s at the moment. Those have 4 engines. But he has logged a lot of 2-engine airliner time. Yes, there is a checklist to pull out if all the engines fail. But, as I already said, the airline allows him exactly zero minutes of simulator time for it. I questioned him very closely about this. People flying single-engine light aircraft have to think about engine failure all the time; but there are no single-engine airliners.
- avianlyric 5y ago
  All engine failures in commercial airlines happen about once every two years. Since 1953 there have been ~38 incidents where an airliner has been forced to glide (I.e. complete failure of all propulsion). That’s 38 incidents in 68 years. The incident rate has been falling while flight numbers have been increasing. Since 2003 (it’s hard to get date before then) there have been ~600,000,000 passenger flights, and seven gliding incidents. So the odds of being on a plane with an all engine failure is around 1:80,000,000. Winning the lottery is around 1:45,000,000. As failure cases go, thats really not bad. In the US around 104 people die every day in traffics accidents. So if you wanna get hot and bothered about public safety, I would suggest you start there. Rather than criticising the safety procedures of the safest form of transport.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    I have not, in fact, criticized the safety procedures of aviation. I have corrected your absurd claim that aviation emergencies are "not dangerous". It is an uncontroversial fact that people have died in aviation emergencies.

by zaarn 5y ago

ncmncm 5y ago

He flies 747s at the moment. Those have 4 engines. But he has logged a lot of 2-engine airliner time. Yes, there is a checklist to pull out if all the engines fail. But, as I already said, the airline allows him exactly zero minutes of simulator time for it. I questioned him very closely about this. People flying single-engine light aircraft have to think about engine failure all the time; but there are no single-engine airliners.

avianlyric 5y ago
All engine failures in commercial airlines happen about once every two years. Since 1953 there have been ~38 incidents where an airliner has been forced to glide (I.e. complete failure of all propulsion). That’s 38 incidents in 68 years. The incident rate has been falling while flight numbers have been increasing. Since 2003 (it’s hard to get date before then) there have been ~600,000,000 passenger flights, and seven gliding incidents. So the odds of being on a plane with an all engine failure is around 1:80,000,000. Winning the lottery is around 1:45,000,000. As failure cases go, thats really not bad. In the US around 104 people die every day in traffics accidents. So if you wanna get hot and bothered about public safety, I would suggest you start there. Rather than criticising the safety procedures of the safest form of transport.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  I have not, in fact, criticized the safety procedures of aviation. I have corrected your absurd claim that aviation emergencies are "not dangerous". It is an uncontroversial fact that people have died in aviation emergencies.