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American Spies Are Fighting the Last War, Again

3 points by samizdis 5y ago

1cvmask 5y ago
Do they bumble becuase of incompetence or is it deliberate by design (and just following the wishes of policymakers): For the first known attempt on blowing up the World Trade Center: C.I.A. Officers Played Role In Sheik Visas - https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/cia-officers-played-role-in-sheik-visas.html https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/cia-officers-pla... - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tradecenter-rahman-idUSKBN15X0KU https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tradecenter-rahman-id... "The New York Times reported the CIA had approved the visa application for Abdel-Rahman, who had supported the anti-Soviet mujahedin in Afghanistan during the 1980s." - On blowback: https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Consequences-American-Empire-Project/dp/0805075593 https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Consequences-American-Empire... - The need to bomb and cause mayhem in non-white countries: https://www.amazon.com/Search-Enemies-CIA-Story/dp/0393009262 https://www.amazon.com/Search-Enemies-CIA-Story/dp/039300926... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell_(CIA_officer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell_(CIA_officer) On the secret wars of the CIA: https://www.c-span.org/video/?10353-1/secret-wars-cia https://www.c-span.org/video/?10353-1/secret-wars-cia -- On creating genocide in Indonesia to overthrow the government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method ---- The "Secret War" in Laos where the CIA waged war and more bombs were dropped than in WWII. "U.S. aircraft dropped more ordnance on Laos than on all countries during World War II, leaving Laos with about 78 million pieces of unexploded ordnance (UXO) by the end of the war.[101] Casualties continue to mount from UXO dropped by the U.S. and Laotian Air Forces from 1964 to 1973. It has been reported that, between 1964 and 1973, areas controlled by the invading North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao were hit by an average of one B‑52 bomb-load every eight minutes, 24 hours a day. Xiangkhouang Province was the most heavily bombed province. Thirty percent of bombs failed to explode immediately."
yann2 5y ago
Open source intelligence should just mean fund more journalists. Some of the billions could easily go there with no expectations placed on what they do. And not talking heads pls, just on the ground front line journos. Big data, as covid has shown, all over the world, is full of errors and fudging as it moves up the food chain from village to town to city to state to national levels. People at the top of the food chains look like complete fools, as they get trapped having to make decisions based on pure garbage data. The only way to combat that is a large army of trained dirt diggers at the bottom of the food chain.

3 points by samizdis 5y ago

Do they bumble becuase of incompetence or is it deliberate by design (and just following the wishes of policymakers): For the first known attempt on blowing up the World Trade Center: C.I.A. Officers Played Role In Sheik Visas - https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/cia-officers-played-role-in-sheik-visas.html https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/cia-officers-pla... - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tradecenter-rahman-idUSKBN15X0KU https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tradecenter-rahman-id... "The New York Times reported the CIA had approved the visa application for Abdel-Rahman, who had supported the anti-Soviet mujahedin in Afghanistan during the 1980s." - On blowback: https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Consequences-American-Empire-Project/dp/0805075593 https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Consequences-American-Empire... - The need to bomb and cause mayhem in non-white countries: https://www.amazon.com/Search-Enemies-CIA-Story/dp/0393009262 https://www.amazon.com/Search-Enemies-CIA-Story/dp/039300926... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell_(CIA_officer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell_(CIA_officer) On the secret wars of the CIA: https://www.c-span.org/video/?10353-1/secret-wars-cia https://www.c-span.org/video/?10353-1/secret-wars-cia -- On creating genocide in Indonesia to overthrow the government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method ---- The "Secret War" in Laos where the CIA waged war and more bombs were dropped than in WWII. "U.S. aircraft dropped more ordnance on Laos than on all countries during World War II, leaving Laos with about 78 million pieces of unexploded ordnance (UXO) by the end of the war.[101] Casualties continue to mount from UXO dropped by the U.S. and Laotian Air Forces from 1964 to 1973. It has been reported that, between 1964 and 1973, areas controlled by the invading North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao were hit by an average of one B‑52 bomb-load every eight minutes, 24 hours a day. Xiangkhouang Province was the most heavily bombed province. Thirty percent of bombs failed to explode immediately."

yann2 5y ago

Open source intelligence should just mean fund more journalists. Some of the billions could easily go there with no expectations placed on what they do. And not talking heads pls, just on the ground front line journos. Big data, as covid has shown, all over the world, is full of errors and fudging as it moves up the food chain from village to town to city to state to national levels. People at the top of the food chains look like complete fools, as they get trapped having to make decisions based on pure garbage data. The only way to combat that is a large army of trained dirt diggers at the bottom of the food chain.