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I agree with you, but an IQ of 70 is mentally disabled, so it's not really a good example of "bad" genetics, so much as it is an example of a disability.

PlasticTank 5y ago
That seems like a strange line to draw, surely plenty of disabilities are genetic, implying bad genetics no?
- Sholmesy 5y ago
  Sure, but it's unlikely that you would have an IQ that low, and not have a specific medical disorder that is causing some of your impairment. E.g, Down Syndrome is a chromosomal change, something that can be measured outside of a 'bad genetics'.
  - nullifidian 5y ago
    What? You somehow think that if there is a named thing then it's not genetics. It's genetics both if it's a named thing, and if it's yet unnamed thing too.
    - Sholmesy 5y ago
      My point is that the distinction is important. Of course, named disorder or not, genetics can be the cause/have a high impact.
- Ygg2 5y ago
  There is a thin line between disability and just different genetics. E.g. is it bad for a primate to have bad bite strength? What if that disability enhances their thinking ability (by both allowing their brain to expand more since the muscles holding the jaw are weaker and by forcing them to use something other than their bite strength)?
mlang23 5y ago
Isn't that a rather arbitrary distinction? Feels you are making it easy for yourself to just dismiss a certain amount of "not-normal" people as not relevant to the discussion? So, what do you define as "bad genetics", then?
redsummer 5y ago
The average IQ of Haiti is 67
throwaway59553 5y ago
However it is, 70 is the average IQ of some underdeveloped countries. And their average citizen is not mentally disabled per se. So are they underdeveloped, precisely because of that average? And speaking of distributions, are the people on the right hand side of the tail distribution, in a big enough number to lead their society, despite the low average?
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PlasticTank 5y ago

That seems like a strange line to draw, surely plenty of disabilities are genetic, implying bad genetics no?

Sholmesy 5y ago
Sure, but it's unlikely that you would have an IQ that low, and not have a specific medical disorder that is causing some of your impairment. E.g, Down Syndrome is a chromosomal change, something that can be measured outside of a 'bad genetics'.
- nullifidian 5y ago
  What? You somehow think that if there is a named thing then it's not genetics. It's genetics both if it's a named thing, and if it's yet unnamed thing too.
  - Sholmesy 5y ago
    My point is that the distinction is important. Of course, named disorder or not, genetics can be the cause/have a high impact.
Ygg2 5y ago
There is a thin line between disability and just different genetics. E.g. is it bad for a primate to have bad bite strength? What if that disability enhances their thinking ability (by both allowing their brain to expand more since the muscles holding the jaw are weaker and by forcing them to use something other than their bite strength)?

mlang23 5y ago

Isn't that a rather arbitrary distinction? Feels you are making it easy for yourself to just dismiss a certain amount of "not-normal" people as not relevant to the discussion? So, what do you define as "bad genetics", then?

redsummer 5y ago

The average IQ of Haiti is 67

throwaway59553 5y ago

However it is, 70 is the average IQ of some underdeveloped countries. And their average citizen is not mentally disabled per se. So are they underdeveloped, precisely because of that average? And speaking of distributions, are the people on the right hand side of the tail distribution, in a big enough number to lead their society, despite the low average?

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