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Your take is right for real life name accounts, but I think the system of reputation does not have to be linked to a real name, and could work on a pseudo based

Your take is right for real life name accounts, but I think the system of reputation does not have to be linked to a real name, and could work on a pseudo based system, maybe even an anonymous one. Imagine a reddit clone, but where your karma is not useless but actually reputation points : the better your reputation, the higher your post/comment is ranked. Your reputation could be subreddit-scoped, and each subreddit could decide to value the existing reputation of a user based on their reputation on another subreddit : e.g. if you have a high reputation on /askhistorians, you automatically get a good one on /history_lovers, and inversely if you get a good reputation on /woman_beater you get a terrible reputation everywhere. A specific system for new users similar to the one on StackOverflow could allow for a deeper check of new users/alt-accounts. And in the end, people could vote on post to provide reputation without actually needing to see the name of the author, providing a better anonymity part : you're not anonymous to the website, but you're not doxxable by random users either.

eXpl0it3r 5y ago
Such a system could be easily gamed, especially since you'd also get into a positive feedback spiral, where your good reputation brings you at the top and you receive more upvotes, just because you're at the top. All you need are some bots to upvote your posts.
- MontyCarloHall 5y ago
  Yup. I agree with the GP’s general premise, but I wouldn’t make high-karma posters have their comments appear higher. Instead, I’d weight their up/downvotes on other people’s comments proportional to their karma, but only in subreddits where they accrued karma. Thus, someone who accrued 10000 karma in history subreddits might get e.g. 10x the voting power in history subreddits. However, if they only had 10 karma in science subreddits, their votes would not be worth a lot there. Of course, this is not perfect (what if someone posts about history in a science subreddit, or vice versa), but it’s a start. AFAIK no platform has tried weighted voting yet.
skinkestek 5y ago
You are really into something here I think. Combine it with something like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20861911 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20861911 and I think one would be at a decent starting point. > [...] > If it costs something people would be more careful. > The cost can be anything: > - Classify 5 answers correctly > - Pick answers from a multiple choice > - Pay a dollar > - Wait a few days to activate > - etc > Ideally the user should be able to choose a method that suits them but make the account worth something. > [...]
ajsnigrutin 5y ago
> Imagine a reddit clone, but where your karma is not useless but actually reputation points : the better your reputation, the higher your post/comment is ranked. So, how would a new user gain reputation, if their every comment is buried under all the karma farmers in every post?
- zaarn 5y ago
  New users could gain artificial karma that slowly decays over time, pushing them to the top 10% of comments for some time to collect karma. The local votes in a comment thread should also weigh more than the karma a user has, only negative karma would have significant weight. Additionally servers could give users some bonus starting karma for free if they have, for example, a verified phone number and email tied to the account. This can be done privacy sensitive by simply having the home server give a boolean of whether or not that is the case. Just like in mastodon, this would be an honor based system, where if you lie, you might get kicked out of the network.

eXpl0it3r 5y ago

Such a system could be easily gamed, especially since you'd also get into a positive feedback spiral, where your good reputation brings you at the top and you receive more upvotes, just because you're at the top. All you need are some bots to upvote your posts.

MontyCarloHall 5y ago
Yup. I agree with the GP’s general premise, but I wouldn’t make high-karma posters have their comments appear higher. Instead, I’d weight their up/downvotes on other people’s comments proportional to their karma, but only in subreddits where they accrued karma. Thus, someone who accrued 10000 karma in history subreddits might get e.g. 10x the voting power in history subreddits. However, if they only had 10 karma in science subreddits, their votes would not be worth a lot there. Of course, this is not perfect (what if someone posts about history in a science subreddit, or vice versa), but it’s a start. AFAIK no platform has tried weighted voting yet.

skinkestek 5y ago

You are really into something here I think. Combine it with something like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20861911 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20861911 and I think one would be at a decent starting point. > [...] > If it costs something people would be more careful. > The cost can be anything: > - Classify 5 answers correctly > - Pick answers from a multiple choice > - Pay a dollar > - Wait a few days to activate > - etc > Ideally the user should be able to choose a method that suits them but make the account worth something. > [...]

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

> Imagine a reddit clone, but where your karma is not useless but actually reputation points : the better your reputation, the higher your post/comment is ranked. So, how would a new user gain reputation, if their every comment is buried under all the karma farmers in every post?

zaarn 5y ago
New users could gain artificial karma that slowly decays over time, pushing them to the top 10% of comments for some time to collect karma. The local votes in a comment thread should also weigh more than the karma a user has, only negative karma would have significant weight. Additionally servers could give users some bonus starting karma for free if they have, for example, a verified phone number and email tied to the account. This can be done privacy sensitive by simply having the home server give a boolean of whether or not that is the case. Just like in mastodon, this would be an honor based system, where if you lie, you might get kicked out of the network.