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No. I think you have a healthy perspective and we should all be questioning if current trends are beneficial/sustainable. I haven’t read the article, but the h

No. I think you have a healthy perspective and we should all be questioning if current trends are beneficial/sustainable. I haven’t read the article, but the headline alone to me seems alarming, $1,500 a month is a lot of money for only 2k rps.

reilly3000 5y ago
Maybe its a lot of money just for the web servers, but for the entire infrastructure stack its pretty reasonable IMHO.
rk06 5y ago
There is more to it that http request response. Mangadex also need to store a lot of images and distribute them.
- hnlmorg 5y ago
  CDNs have already solved this problem and are much cheaper than $1500/month. I've ran far more complex sites with much higher traffic for less.
  - rk06 5y ago
    Mangadex can't use cloudflare because of privacy reasons. They may be facing similar issues with other popular CDNs. I am sure they must be using some kind of CDN for sure, however, those options are unlikely to be free
    - hnlmorg 5y ago
      Privacy reasons? It's all static content that is publicly accessible. I don't understand what the privacy reasons could be under this context. Are they worried about CDNs logging the images their visitors access? Seems like an absurd edge case to worry about in my opinion. > however, those options are unlikely to be free I wasn't even talking about free CDNs :)
      - vymague 5y ago
        I think privacy as in the mangadex team don't want to get sued. So they avoid popular services who are more willingly share their identity.
      - nrabulinski 5y ago
        They’re basically hosting illegal content, or at least a good chunk of it is copyright-infringing so they cannot use cloudflare or any of the other off the shelf offerings
        hnlmorg 5y ago
        I see. That does complicate things somewhat. I wonder if there's merit in them approaching studios with a proper business plan?
        Jcowell 5y ago
        Now with the way the manga, Manghwa, and WEBTOON industry is tied up. But I believe that is their end goal eventually.
        ricktdotorg 5y ago
        Not disputing your statement, just made me laugh a bit because almost every single site I visit recently that offers links to copyrighted content [stored in file lockers] sits behind Cloudflare
        level3 5y ago
        Hm? There are lots of copyright-infringing sites using Cloudflare, and Cloudflare seems pretty content to generally ignore infringement notices.
        MichaelZuo 5y ago
        I wouldn’t say illegal content, since most of that gets removed relatively quickly. But definitely a lot of content in the grey zones of copyright law.
Vosporos 5y ago
Then you should read the article ;)

reilly3000 5y ago

Maybe its a lot of money just for the web servers, but for the entire infrastructure stack its pretty reasonable IMHO.

rk06 5y ago

There is more to it that http request response. Mangadex also need to store a lot of images and distribute them.

hnlmorg 5y ago
CDNs have already solved this problem and are much cheaper than $1500/month. I've ran far more complex sites with much higher traffic for less.
- rk06 5y ago
  Mangadex can't use cloudflare because of privacy reasons. They may be facing similar issues with other popular CDNs. I am sure they must be using some kind of CDN for sure, however, those options are unlikely to be free
  - hnlmorg 5y ago
    Privacy reasons? It's all static content that is publicly accessible. I don't understand what the privacy reasons could be under this context. Are they worried about CDNs logging the images their visitors access? Seems like an absurd edge case to worry about in my opinion. > however, those options are unlikely to be free I wasn't even talking about free CDNs :)
    - vymague 5y ago
      I think privacy as in the mangadex team don't want to get sued. So they avoid popular services who are more willingly share their identity.
    - nrabulinski 5y ago
      They’re basically hosting illegal content, or at least a good chunk of it is copyright-infringing so they cannot use cloudflare or any of the other off the shelf offerings
      - hnlmorg 5y ago
        I see. That does complicate things somewhat. I wonder if there's merit in them approaching studios with a proper business plan?
        Jcowell 5y ago
        Now with the way the manga, Manghwa, and WEBTOON industry is tied up. But I believe that is their end goal eventually.
      - ricktdotorg 5y ago
        Not disputing your statement, just made me laugh a bit because almost every single site I visit recently that offers links to copyrighted content [stored in file lockers] sits behind Cloudflare
      - level3 5y ago
        Hm? There are lots of copyright-infringing sites using Cloudflare, and Cloudflare seems pretty content to generally ignore infringement notices.
      - MichaelZuo 5y ago
        I wouldn’t say illegal content, since most of that gets removed relatively quickly. But definitely a lot of content in the grey zones of copyright law.

Vosporos 5y ago

Then you should read the article ;)