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How is it more noble? In just about every possible way. Driving on the "dangerous interstate" is something we all do, most of us every day. And it's not danger

How is it more noble? In just about every possible way. Driving on the "dangerous interstate" is something we all do, most of us every day. And it's not dangerous in the sense of running into a burning building or into the robbery-in-progress. Doing things like that are heroic because they require you to overcome a very basic and very strong sense of self preservation at all costs. Truckers do a valuable job, but so do we all: That's why we get paid. We're adding value. But they're not hero's in the sense you're suggesting.

raldi 15y ago
How do you feel about high-rise construction workers? They meet your test, having to overcome millennia of instinct every time they walk out on an I-beam to perform a dangerous job for the benefit of the rest of society. Are they worthy of fireman-policeman levels of respect, or do you find them lacking as well?
- encoderer 15y ago
  Bullsh^^t raldi, I don't find anybody "lacking" and that's not fair to say. You asked a question, I answered it. This is the last round of your game here I'm going to play, but fine, here goes: I didn't explicitely say in my previous example that there's people in that burning building or victims being robbed, but I thought it was implied. We value human life, not buildings and stuff. If firemen routinely died running into burning buildings to save the building they wouldn't be very impressive. You'd imagine they'd be doing it because somebody is paying them well and if that's the case, that's the risk they take. Highrise construction workers are not up there risking their life in a way where, on a moments notice, almost as reflex, they thrust themselves into peril to save a life. They're doing it because they want and love the thrill and because they're well paid.
uncletrucker 15y ago
Have you ever been in a moving big-rig at 65 mph? It's terrifying to be a passenger; you can only imagine the balls it takes to pilot one. If you don't think it's any scarier than driving to work, you should talk to a trucker. Ever hear of a runaway truck lane? You think a truck driver going over the Rockies in pitch black night with nobody around doesn't have to overcome a sense of self-preservation?

raldi 15y ago

How do you feel about high-rise construction workers? They meet your test, having to overcome millennia of instinct every time they walk out on an I-beam to perform a dangerous job for the benefit of the rest of society. Are they worthy of fireman-policeman levels of respect, or do you find them lacking as well?

encoderer 15y ago
Bullsh^^t raldi, I don't find anybody "lacking" and that's not fair to say. You asked a question, I answered it. This is the last round of your game here I'm going to play, but fine, here goes: I didn't explicitely say in my previous example that there's people in that burning building or victims being robbed, but I thought it was implied. We value human life, not buildings and stuff. If firemen routinely died running into burning buildings to save the building they wouldn't be very impressive. You'd imagine they'd be doing it because somebody is paying them well and if that's the case, that's the risk they take. Highrise construction workers are not up there risking their life in a way where, on a moments notice, almost as reflex, they thrust themselves into peril to save a life. They're doing it because they want and love the thrill and because they're well paid.

uncletrucker 15y ago

Have you ever been in a moving big-rig at 65 mph? It's terrifying to be a passenger; you can only imagine the balls it takes to pilot one. If you don't think it's any scarier than driving to work, you should talk to a trucker. Ever hear of a runaway truck lane? You think a truck driver going over the Rockies in pitch black night with nobody around doesn't have to overcome a sense of self-preservation?