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Just recently switched jobs. Starting week two today. I applied for only one job at the insistence of my wife because it was with a renowned company. I had to

Just recently switched jobs. Starting week two today. I applied for only one job at the insistence of my wife because it was with a renowned company. I had to actually write out a C.V. to apply, and as of Friday, a week into my new job, seven weeks later, my application is "still under review" according to the internal recruiter/manager. I had a lot of technical recruiters reach out to me, almost all of them failed to garner my interest based on a few simple questions I asked right up front. Before interview I prequalified all of the positions to ensure that it involved remote work and that the pay was within a range I was willing to accept. "Is this position remote? Or on-site? What is the pay range for this position?" A large proportion of the people who reached out did not respond to the questions, and of those that did, several gave responses that were immediate red flags. I interviewed with a FANG, on the recommendation of a friend, and I ultimately turned down the offer, but had it not been for my friend's insistence who works at the FANG, to "keep going" through the interview, I would have simply stopped the interview, and in fact thought about doing so several times. Whiteboarding and take-homes for people with decades of proven and verifiable experience and a couple of master's in computer subjects is still apparently a thing. I had an interview lined up with another FANG, which was to be a full day of "first round interviews" and then two full days with different teams to figure out where I would go. I withdrew my application once I accepted the offer for my current (new) position. It was not a company I was interestd in, but they were doing interesting things in augmented reality. I put in my two weeks notice, and the company I was working for made a counter-offer, almost two hours after my last day on the job. In all I had five offers on the table, at base compensation of $100K (absolutely absurd interview with a low-ball offer even after pre-qualifying), $120K (reasonable interview, low-ball offer even after pre-qualifying), $150K (45 minute interview, knew the size of the offer going in, interesting work), $230K (a quick chat, then four hours of shooting the shit, exceptionally interesting work) and $260K (two full days, whiteboarding and take home (which I refused to do), career advancement). My current position I didn't even apply for, and I don't think anyone even looked at the C.V. I got the job because of an old colleague who said "are you looking?" Total search time was from late June to mid-August. Maybe eight weeks total. I was being extremely picky with regard which companies I talked too.

the_only_law 5y ago
> $230K (a quick chat, then four hours of shooting the shit, exceptionally interesting work) Jesus Christ, I wish I knew how to target these companies.
- justinlloyd 5y ago
  You'll be absolutely steamed if I tell you all of the job "applications" were inbound inquiries whereby the companies approached me and I actively avoided using a single external technical recruiter. I applied for only a single position, at the insistence of my wife. The only place that required a C.V. was someone in HR at the FANG. I used the same C.V. to send to the company my wife wanted me to apply at. I had to create a C.V. specifically to satisfy HR. I haven't used a C.V. in almost 20 years when looking for work. The last time I built a C.V. was when the company I worked for got acquihired and that was 9 years ago. I don't think my C.V. got looked at once during the entire interview process. Nobody I spoke with even mentioned my C.V. I'm not a particularly strong candidate, below average intelligence, so-so education. C.V is here: https://justin-lloyd.com/ https://justin-lloyd.com/ There's nothing remarkable about my C.V. that would get anyone hired, and I know this because nobody ever looked at it.
- Schiendelman 5y ago
  What do you do and what do you want to do?
  - the_only_law 5y ago
    What do I do? So far mostly just typical enterprise stuff, in legacy, but not quite dead versions of tech that has modern counterparts. As for what I want to do, it’s a bit hard to describe. It’s much easier to describe what I don’t want to do. I don’t want a job that a year or two in I’ll dread waking up in the morning and having to work. That’s been a constant in my career so far. I’d also like to work less in the same old and would like to work where I’ll be exposed to me more and ideally working on something that interests me. Ofc the latter goes back to the “hard to describe” thing and mostly something I know when I see, but can’t put it concretely. For the most part I just look at job listings, and have to filter through the swaths of stuff I don’t want to find the occasional job that looks good only to realize there’s no way I’d ever to get it. Sadly it seems like the best way to get where I want is to have been in the a different place with a different mindset five years ago.

the_only_law 5y ago

> $230K (a quick chat, then four hours of shooting the shit, exceptionally interesting work) Jesus Christ, I wish I knew how to target these companies.

justinlloyd 5y ago
You'll be absolutely steamed if I tell you all of the job "applications" were inbound inquiries whereby the companies approached me and I actively avoided using a single external technical recruiter. I applied for only a single position, at the insistence of my wife. The only place that required a C.V. was someone in HR at the FANG. I used the same C.V. to send to the company my wife wanted me to apply at. I had to create a C.V. specifically to satisfy HR. I haven't used a C.V. in almost 20 years when looking for work. The last time I built a C.V. was when the company I worked for got acquihired and that was 9 years ago. I don't think my C.V. got looked at once during the entire interview process. Nobody I spoke with even mentioned my C.V. I'm not a particularly strong candidate, below average intelligence, so-so education. C.V is here: https://justin-lloyd.com/ https://justin-lloyd.com/ There's nothing remarkable about my C.V. that would get anyone hired, and I know this because nobody ever looked at it.
Schiendelman 5y ago
What do you do and what do you want to do?
- the_only_law 5y ago
  What do I do? So far mostly just typical enterprise stuff, in legacy, but not quite dead versions of tech that has modern counterparts. As for what I want to do, it’s a bit hard to describe. It’s much easier to describe what I don’t want to do. I don’t want a job that a year or two in I’ll dread waking up in the morning and having to work. That’s been a constant in my career so far. I’d also like to work less in the same old and would like to work where I’ll be exposed to me more and ideally working on something that interests me. Ofc the latter goes back to the “hard to describe” thing and mostly something I know when I see, but can’t put it concretely. For the most part I just look at job listings, and have to filter through the swaths of stuff I don’t want to find the occasional job that looks good only to realize there’s no way I’d ever to get it. Sadly it seems like the best way to get where I want is to have been in the a different place with a different mindset five years ago.