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Yep, when we defer to the public instead of experts to make decisions, we get Brexit. The devastation of a country. I don't think your example is bolstering wha

Yep, when we defer to the public instead of experts to make decisions, we get Brexit. The devastation of a country. I don't think your example is bolstering what you think it's bolstering.

kypro 5y ago
> The devastation of a country. Don't you think it's odd you have such a strong opinion on Brexit? Anyone who believes Brexit is an obvious disaster isn't paying attention or is extremely disconnected. It's not like it was a simple obvious decision so your confidence is fascinating to me. There are obvious pro and cons depending on largely on your class and immigration status. My dad just got a pay rise thanks for shortages it HGV drivers, he isn't complaining. As someone who's moved up into the upper-middle class it means I don't have the liberty to work in other peoples' countries without their permission anymore, but I guess the fact that bothers me just exposes how privileged I am. Most people in my family can't even afford to go aboard on holiday. Are there any political unions you would oppose out of interest? Could you envision a situation where the economic benefits of a political union may not be worth the risks/costs?
- exo-pla-net 5y ago
  I think it's odd that you think it's odd that I have a strong opinion. Brexit is equivalent to MAGAtry in the US. A populist, nativist, authoritarian movement, favoring strongmen over institutions. Are you sure it's not you who's in the dark about what Brexit represents, about how it fits among similar movements throughout history, and about what the ongoing list of catastrophic consequences will be, as itemized by a host of analysts, scientists, and economists? [1] I think maybe you're trying to pin me as a political tribalist with your union question? I don't have a political tribe, and I don't care about unions. I believe in evidence-based policy, wherever that policy points, irrespective of surrounding political narratives. I believe in a rational-legal political model grounded in the veil of ignorance. Can you tell me how authoritarianism relates to populism? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicted_impact_of_Brexit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicted_impact_of_Brexit

Yep, when we defer to the public instead of experts to make decisions, we get Brexit. The devastation of a country. I don't think your example is bolstering what you think it's bolstering.

kypro 5y ago

> The devastation of a country. Don't you think it's odd you have such a strong opinion on Brexit? Anyone who believes Brexit is an obvious disaster isn't paying attention or is extremely disconnected. It's not like it was a simple obvious decision so your confidence is fascinating to me. There are obvious pro and cons depending on largely on your class and immigration status. My dad just got a pay rise thanks for shortages it HGV drivers, he isn't complaining. As someone who's moved up into the upper-middle class it means I don't have the liberty to work in other peoples' countries without their permission anymore, but I guess the fact that bothers me just exposes how privileged I am. Most people in my family can't even afford to go aboard on holiday. Are there any political unions you would oppose out of interest? Could you envision a situation where the economic benefits of a political union may not be worth the risks/costs?

exo-pla-net 5y ago
I think it's odd that you think it's odd that I have a strong opinion. Brexit is equivalent to MAGAtry in the US. A populist, nativist, authoritarian movement, favoring strongmen over institutions. Are you sure it's not you who's in the dark about what Brexit represents, about how it fits among similar movements throughout history, and about what the ongoing list of catastrophic consequences will be, as itemized by a host of analysts, scientists, and economists? [1] I think maybe you're trying to pin me as a political tribalist with your union question? I don't have a political tribe, and I don't care about unions. I believe in evidence-based policy, wherever that policy points, irrespective of surrounding political narratives. I believe in a rational-legal political model grounded in the veil of ignorance. Can you tell me how authoritarianism relates to populism? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicted_impact_of_Brexit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicted_impact_of_Brexit