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Yes it's time Protonmail got rid of free accounts. Or disable free accounts so they can't send more than 10 emails a day. This isn't rocket science, Protonmail

Yes it's time Protonmail got rid of free accounts. Or disable free accounts so they can't send more than 10 emails a day. This isn't rocket science, Protonmail. You make it look hard. I'll take my money elsewhere (open to suggestions here).

woko 5y ago
> I'll take my money elsewhere. Feel free to report where. Something tells me it ain't that easy to find a decent alternative.
- istingray 5y ago
  Edited to say I'm open to suggestions here. Given that Protonmail dropped the ball for $60/year, apparently that's not enough to keep them focused. I'm prepared to pay $100/year for email now.
  - bserge 5y ago
    Any service that won't comply with local authorities risks getting shut down at any moment. That said, I do have a country perfect for this - lax law enforcement, outside EU but bordering it, no US, Chinese or Russian affiliation, either, very reliable high speed Internet and cheap electricity. Something tells me as soon as most people see the name, they will refuse to sign up.
    - forix 5y ago
      > Something tells me as soon as most people see the name, they will refuse to sign up. Wouldn't even need to see the name to refuse to sign up. Assuming it's not Switzerland, all the other options seem bad.
    - smnrchrds 5y ago
      Turkey?
    - istingray 5y ago
      What about what I said suggests anything about not complying with the law? All my suggestions to Protonmail were around transparency and user education. They can host it in China if that's the case for all I care. In the modern age, every state is an adversary.
  - CyanBird 5y ago
    Go check ctemplar, it is not without faults, but it seems to be that, or set up your own lavabit/tutanota server
    - istingray 5y ago
      Appreciate the suggestion. Solutions like this also caught my interest: https://thehelm.com https://thehelm.com (hn discussion from last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28350466 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28350466 from years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18238581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18238581)

woko 5y ago

> I'll take my money elsewhere. Feel free to report where. Something tells me it ain't that easy to find a decent alternative.

istingray 5y ago
Edited to say I'm open to suggestions here. Given that Protonmail dropped the ball for $60/year, apparently that's not enough to keep them focused. I'm prepared to pay $100/year for email now.
- bserge 5y ago
  Any service that won't comply with local authorities risks getting shut down at any moment. That said, I do have a country perfect for this - lax law enforcement, outside EU but bordering it, no US, Chinese or Russian affiliation, either, very reliable high speed Internet and cheap electricity. Something tells me as soon as most people see the name, they will refuse to sign up.
  - forix 5y ago
    > Something tells me as soon as most people see the name, they will refuse to sign up. Wouldn't even need to see the name to refuse to sign up. Assuming it's not Switzerland, all the other options seem bad.
  - smnrchrds 5y ago
    Turkey?
  - istingray 5y ago
    What about what I said suggests anything about not complying with the law? All my suggestions to Protonmail were around transparency and user education. They can host it in China if that's the case for all I care. In the modern age, every state is an adversary.
- CyanBird 5y ago
  Go check ctemplar, it is not without faults, but it seems to be that, or set up your own lavabit/tutanota server
  - istingray 5y ago
    Appreciate the suggestion. Solutions like this also caught my interest: https://thehelm.com https://thehelm.com (hn discussion from last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28350466 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28350466 from years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18238581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18238581)