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Sure, but they're in the business of selling as many phones as possible which means getting you to upgrade every so often. Unless they settle on a business mod

Sure, but they're in the business of selling as many phones as possible which means getting you to upgrade every so often. Unless they settle on a business model that allows them to make money from your old phone, I see this continuing.

gruez 5y ago
> Unless they settle on a business model that allows them to make money from your old phone, I see this continuing. ...like apple and its recent focus on services?
cycomanic 5y ago
Honestly why should I care what their business model is, if it is detrimental to users and the environment. That's the whole point of laws, to discourage behaviour that we as society deem undesirable.
southerntofu 5y ago
And that's why you can't let the market govern lives, and we have regulations.
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
Plus one flagship phone neglects the largest portion of the market who want cheaper phones
- kasabali 5y ago
  Then they should do like Apple did(?) and continue to sell older generations as the low end segment offering. Which should incidentally make sense since they'd be still supporting because of the said law anyway. Another side effect is this may also discourage them from churning pointless new models year after year with minor spec bumps.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
    > from churning pointless new models year after year with minor spec bumps. They'd never abandon a working business model like that
ben-schaaf 5y ago
> Sure, but they're in the business of selling as many phones as possible which means getting you to upgrade every so often. Indeed they are, but planned obselescence should quite simply be illegal. For sure it'll hurt some businesses, but it's better for everyone else.
AdrianB1 5y ago
"Selling as many phones as possible" allows yearly upgrades, but instead of 10 different models per year they can sell 3 models per year with 3.3x sales of each model. I am looking at Samsung models on the market, they are close to 10, Apple has maybe 2 or 3.

gruez 5y ago

> Unless they settle on a business model that allows them to make money from your old phone, I see this continuing. ...like apple and its recent focus on services?

cycomanic 5y ago

Honestly why should I care what their business model is, if it is detrimental to users and the environment. That's the whole point of laws, to discourage behaviour that we as society deem undesirable.

southerntofu 5y ago

And that's why you can't let the market govern lives, and we have regulations.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago

Plus one flagship phone neglects the largest portion of the market who want cheaper phones

kasabali 5y ago
Then they should do like Apple did(?) and continue to sell older generations as the low end segment offering. Which should incidentally make sense since they'd be still supporting because of the said law anyway. Another side effect is this may also discourage them from churning pointless new models year after year with minor spec bumps.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
  > from churning pointless new models year after year with minor spec bumps. They'd never abandon a working business model like that

ben-schaaf 5y ago

> Sure, but they're in the business of selling as many phones as possible which means getting you to upgrade every so often. Indeed they are, but planned obselescence should quite simply be illegal. For sure it'll hurt some businesses, but it's better for everyone else.

AdrianB1 5y ago

"Selling as many phones as possible" allows yearly upgrades, but instead of 10 different models per year they can sell 3 models per year with 3.3x sales of each model. I am looking at Samsung models on the market, they are close to 10, Apple has maybe 2 or 3.